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Nov 18, 2005 07:34 |  #16

I have an Epson 2200, and the print quality is outstanding. IF it ever dies, I want a
R2400. "Naked" prints that are at least 2 years old, on premium lustre, still look as good as when printed.


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Nov 18, 2005 10:10 |  #17

This isn't as current as it could be, but it might be a reasonable starting point: http://www.consumersea​rch.com …omputers/inkjet​-printers/ (external link)



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Nov 18, 2005 10:50 |  #18

Sorry to partially butt in, but isn't it more cost effective to have your pictures printed by a lab...Ink costs ridiculous amounts these days?

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Nov 18, 2005 11:35 as a reply to  @ lakiluno's post |  #19

lakiluno wrote:
Sorry to partially butt in, but isn't it more cost effective to have your pictures printed by a lab...Ink costs ridiculous amounts these days?

Leo

As far as getting printed at a lab versus at home, you're right for sure. I can get 4X6 prints at a lot of labs for 15 cents and I can't do that at home considering the paper and ink costs. But, I definitely have much more control at home than I do with the lab. But, costs are definitely cheaper at the lab.

As far as quality:The prints I produce at home are of a very high quality and the inks will last 100 years or so. The lab prints, I don't know.

If I am going to do a few prints, I do them at home. If I'm going to want 100 4X6's, like pictures of my new granddaughter, I'll go to the lab.

I have the R800 just like Peachman. The R800 produces a print dot of 1.5 microlitres which is of the smallest of any printer available. It has a cartridge called the "Gloss Optimizer" which protects the print and also adds some "punch" to the print. Problem with the R800 is it only prints 8 1/2 " wide so if you want wider, the R1800 or the R2400 would be great!

One bonus of the R800 that I have is it prints on CD/DVD's too! The R1800 does too!

I love my R800 and I've had it over a year and it just keeps producing outstanding color prints. I have a cheaper Epson for daily printing and I save the R800 for prints and DVD's.;)


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Nov 18, 2005 11:39 |  #20

I have the Canon i9900 and loved it til I tried to print black and white.:cry:




  
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Nov 18, 2005 11:58 as a reply to  @ queenbee288's post |  #21

I found this photographer that commercially prints his photography on an Epson 9600 which is a pretty expensive Epson but the point is he chose Epson for his prints.

Look through his info., it might give you some ideas. Just copy and paste the following link into your browser window to go directly there.

http://www.beautiful-landscape.com/Print-of-the-month-01.html (external link)


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Nov 18, 2005 12:53 |  #22

I have the i9900, use koday professional papers with it and their profiles, and it has been awsome. I also have an Epson r320 for printing DVDs - which I occasionally print 4x6s on. I found dialing in the colors on the Canon a little easier and its speed rocks - easily twice as fast as the epson - of course the r1800 is faster then my epson but still slower then the i9900. I have no complaints with the canon - and day to day operating expenses have been minimal.




  
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Nov 18, 2005 13:52 |  #23

I do the same as JohnnyG...print everyday stuff on the old HP 932 and keepers on the R-800...I'm not much on printing snapshots...I don't like how they look in the reduced size and almost always use the R800 for 8X10's (8 1/2 X11)..If someone wants snap sizes I give them a slide show or data on a CD and let them view it on a monitor (where they look best) or advise them to take it somewhere and have the prints they want made up.

As far as cost for printing, the last time I took a 11X17 in to the labe for printing on archival paper and ink , it cost me $22 ...I can buy quite a bit of paper and ink for that (start loosing ground though if I have to adjust colors for a 2nd or 3rd take:rolleyes:

PS... I always wait for sales and buy my paper at Staples...use either Epson or Fugi with the R800 (be careful subbing paper) and can find it 1/2 price two or three times a year...


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Nov 18, 2005 14:05 as a reply to  @ PEACHMAN's post |  #24

From what I've read, the big downside of the Epson printers is that they are prone to clogging unless you use them regularly (i.e., at least weekly). Since I would probably only print once a month or so, I've pretty much ruled out the Epsons.



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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6
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Nov 18, 2005 14:19 |  #25

absolutly not true with mine ...


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Nov 18, 2005 16:49 as a reply to  @ vjack's post |  #26

vjack wrote:
From what I've read, the big downside of the Epson printers is that they are prone to clogging unless you use them regularly (i.e., at least weekly). Since I would probably only print once a month or so, I've pretty much ruled out the Epsons.

Not mine either but it sounds like your mind is made up anyway so get the Canon! I'm sure you'll love it...

I guess this has all been an exercise in futility! That reminds me to exercise and not my futility! Ouch....


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Nov 18, 2005 17:37 |  #27

I have the I9950 not sure what model that is in the Northern Hemisphere but it's a great printer. Black and white is not all that great though as it seems to hold a slight colour cast and I'm to lazy to try and get rid of it.


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Nov 18, 2005 18:56 |  #28

If you want a dye sub, get a dye sub....

If you want an inkjet, get an epson... it is really that simple. No other inkjets can match the epsons(r800 and up) cmyk color gamut, cause of the use of the red and blue inks, the choice of black inks (there are three to choose from if you get the 2400 or above) and the use of a clear ink on non lay down areas(white highlight areas where no ink would normally get laid down).
I always used canon until epson brought ought the ultrachrome inks, and then i switched! It shouldnt be a matter of brand or price(within reason) its a matter of colour reproduction, and the potential for transition from light to dark. Things that in inkjets, epsons just cant be beaten on. Dye subs are a whole different kettle of beans, so it would be futile to compare a dye sub to an inkjet.

Get the epson!!


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Nov 18, 2005 20:11 as a reply to  @ vjack's post |  #29

vjack wrote:
From what I've read, the big downside of the Epson printers is that they are prone to clogging unless you use them regularly (i.e., at least weekly). Since I would probably only print once a month or so, I've pretty much ruled out the Epsons.

Epson has had that problem in the past and might still have it on their cheaper printers like the C series of inkjets. I have a C86 and it has had that problem when I didn't use it for a while.

But, the good news is that the more expensive printers like the R800, R1800 and others above those don't have that problem for what it's worth.

But, I also agree with others like Kinkysmith and Peachman, if you want inkjet, get the Epson.

But, in the end, it's your money!;)


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Nov 19, 2005 09:24 |  #30

My only experience with epsons was with a (now quite old) printer that used fixed heads...the only way to replace the heads now is to change the whole printer. The other printers I've used all had in-cartridge heads.

Surely using clear ink is just another excuse to charge people ridicoulous amounts for ink...oh no, my invisible ink has run out!!!


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