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Dec 14, 2005 09:56 |  #46

You want quality B&W prints as well as superb color prints... Check out HP 8450 and 8750 printers.... The 8450 can be had for $130 the 8750 for $400 or less....

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Dec 14, 2005 10:11 as a reply to  @ post 993364 |  #47

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I'm considering the R800 and 1800—any cons to this printer?

The only problem I have is that the local Staples does not carry the ink for it.. I can get it in Portland when I go there (about 1.5 hours away...) Other than that I just love it...the advanced settings are easy to use , and should be used to match your work on the monitor with the color and contrasts that are printed...You need to try samples of paper if you want to use any other than Epson...some papers like HP will turn to a wash , like a watercolors, while Fugi and kadak work great...I always buy paper when it comes on sale at Staples...I can keep a supply at half price that way....No, I would say that there are no other problems that trouble me with it...I would go so far as to say it is my most reliable and satisfying piece of equipment that I own or have owned! And just print the same file on another good printer and hold them side to side .....


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Dec 14, 2005 10:14 as a reply to  @ Visuals's post |  #48

Visuallynice wrote:
You want quality B&W prints as well as superb color prints... Check out HP 8450 and 8750 printers.... The 8450 can be had for $130 the 8750 for $400 or less....

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The HP 8750 is in the same class as the Epson R1800 in that they both have 13" wide carriage and will print the larger format.

PCMagazine rates the 8750 lower than the Epson R1800 though so keep that in mind when doing your research.


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Dec 14, 2005 12:01 as a reply to  @ PEACHMAN's post |  #49

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The only problem I have is that the local Staples does not carry the ink for it.. I can get it in Portland when I go there (about 1.5 hours away...) Other than that I just love it...the advanced settings are easy to use , and should be used to match your work on the monitor with the color and contrasts that are printed...You need to try samples of paper if you want to use any other than Epson...some papers like HP will turn to a wash , like a watercolors, while Fugi and kadak work great...I always buy paper when it comes on sale at Staples...I can keep a supply at half price that way....No, I would say that there are no other problems that trouble me with it...I would go so far as to say it is my most reliable and satisfying piece of equipment that I own or have owned! And just print the same file on another good printer and hold them side to side .....

I've got the Epson 1280 (the original, purchased about 4 years ago) and have provided excellent result. The biggest issue is ink consumption and head clogging.


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Dec 14, 2005 14:46 as a reply to  @ Atlasman's post |  #50

I bought the R1800 last weekend. Went out to get the R800 but Compusa had a gift card deal on the R1800 which brought it to within $75 of the R800 price. I figured for $75, why not get the big one.

I haven't printed anything larger than a 4x6 yet but the ones I printed are looking great.

I got some replacement ink cartridges to have on hand at Best Buy. They gave me a 25% discount on the ink if I bought six or more colors. Most cartridges ended up being close to $10 each--not bad.

If I hadn't got the Epson, I'd probably have gotten the Canon ip5200, which was less than 1/3 the price of the R1800. Somehow, I think you get what you pay for.


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Dec 15, 2005 09:09 |  #51

how about one of these?
this is my friends old printer, he got the newer/faster unit a few months ago,

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Dec 15, 2005 16:57 |  #52

I have the Epson 1280 as well and it has been wonderful, when I have enough money to buy cartridges, and if I don't use it consistently, it dries up. So, right now it's on a table in my office gathering dust. I am looking for a 10 color cartridge printer that is reliable and can truly give me the same results.

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Dec 15, 2005 17:21 as a reply to  @ SuzyView's post |  #53

SuzyView wrote:
I have the Epson 1280 as well and it has been wonderful, when I have enough money to buy cartridges, and if I don't use it consistently, it dries up. So, right now it's on a table in my office gathering dust. I am looking for a 10 color cartridge printer that is reliable and can truly give me the same results.

SuzyView

The clogging is my sole motivation for replacing the 1280. But right now I'm torn between the Epson R2400 and the HP DJ 30.


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Dec 15, 2005 17:27 as a reply to  @ SuzyView's post |  #54

SuzyView wrote:
I have the Epson 1280 as well and it has been wonderful, when I have enough money to buy cartridges, and if I don't use it consistently, it dries up. So, right now it's on a table in my office gathering dust. I am looking for a 10 color cartridge printer that is reliable and can truly give me the same results.

SuzyView

I don't know what you mean by "10 color" but I would recommend the Epson R800 or the R1800.

They both have the 8 cartridges and I can speak for the R800, it is truly a fantastic printer. The R1800 will print on wider paper and is basically the same otherwise as the R800.

They both will also print on DVD/CD printable media which is a nice bonus.


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Dec 15, 2005 18:03 |  #55

There is a new printer that has 10 cartridges and a friend of mine said that is the best. I think 8 must be better than what I have. I've been using my Epson CX6400 because I wanted DuraBrite ink. Now I regret it because the pictures turn out dull.

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Dec 18, 2005 06:49 |  #56

I've been following this thread now for some time. Thanks to everyone who has contributed!

Before I started reading this, I was dead set on a Canon I9950, now I am convienced I want an EPSON (it was the reports about B&W prints that finally made me change my mind..)

Now here is the current problem, I've recently had some A2 prints from a Canon W6400 on a canon open day, what look stunning. I want to get some A2 prints done for personal and friends. My options are :-

1) Buy a 2400, and sent away for A2 prints (About £20/$38 approx) OR
2) Buy a 4000 C4, because the price difference is about the cost of 12 prints (ignoreing ink /paper) cost.

Is the 4000 as good as the 2400 (the 2400 is a newish model, I do not know how old the 4000 is)? I assume it uses the same INK and the resolution would be the same, but that doesn't garauntee the same results...

If anyone as any experince of the 4000 verus a 2400, I would be grateful for any feedback...


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Dec 18, 2005 06:58 |  #57

Hmm, I've been doing some more digging, and there is a Stylus Pro 4800. But its twice the price of the 4000...


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Dec 19, 2005 08:56 as a reply to  @ post 933291 |  #58

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I have the Canon i9900 and loved it til I tried to print black and white.:cry:

The R800 has two different blacks, a gloss black and a matt black ...good for B&W I'm told, although my conversions never come out like I expect in my PP, always a blue tint, not the printer though...It happens where ever I print as well as on the monitor.? ? One thing I never do is print anything smaller than 8X10 on my Epson...I don't like the color , contrast and saturation changes that happen when reducing images in any foremat, monitor or print..and the money savings really don't start happening until you go to 8 1/2 X 11 paper (5 X 7 is almost the same price/ sheet)


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Dec 19, 2005 09:04 as a reply to  @ PEACHMAN's post |  #59

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The R800 has two different blacks, a gloss black and a matt black ...good for B&W I'm told, although my conversions never come out like I expect in my PP, always a blue tint, not the printer though...It happens where ever I print as well as on the monitor.? ? One thing I never do is print anything smaller than 8X10 on my Epson...I don't like the color , contrast and saturation changes that happen when reducing images in any foremat, monitor or print..and the money savings really don't start happening until you go to 8 1/2 X 11 paper (5 X 7 is almost the same price/ sheet)

That's kind of funny I guess but the main reason I use my R800 is to print photos! The 4X6, 5X7, and 8X10 are absolutely stunning. I'm not sure about cost though but I'm sure it cost more to use the R800 but I love the results. Much better than any lab I've tried!

I do very little b/w but they match my screen. It's just that I'm not very good at boosting the b/w like some people I seen on here.

Oh, I have both blacks too and a true Red and a Blue amongst others.


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Dec 19, 2005 15:03 |  #60

I was looking at a Epson R1800 which appears to be a very good printer and then I look into the R2400 and see that the R1800 is better for color and the R2400 is better for B&W – the customer should be getting pissed off at Epson for this. Also hear that the Epson R1800 waste a lot of ink when you clean the nozzle, sounds like it is typical that a Epson will need cleanings if you let it sit a couple of weeks. I believe a cleaning will use 8% of all of your ink - $$$. If you change one cartridge in a R1800 then all cartridges run through a cleaning using 8% of all of your ink – the top end Epson’s only clean the cartridge that is replaced. See a lot of people **** about Epson and all the ink wasted in cleaning cycles. The Epson R1900 has the adapter to print on CD’s. The Epson has more paper choices. Sounds like from what I read that it is almost criminal of the ink Epson waste ($$$) when replacing cartridges or cleaning required after days of inactivity.

The Canon i9900 I looked at a bit has a slightly better color range. I don’t see complaints of wasted ink or issues that the printer needs to be cleaned after a couple of weeks of inactivity. Canon has less paper options than Epson. I think Canon archival time is estimated to be in the range of chemically developed prints (?? 40 years I don’t know) and Epson is many times more.

Non Canon or Non Epson ink. Saw a few references about people claiming they were using ink from other sources and they said this is the same ink Epson / Canon uses…. Then I liked at those sites and I am coming to the conclusion that this is not the case. I am still investigating…. I was an inch away from getting a R1800 and now I am on hold for a new printer.


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