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Starburst: 16-35 I vs 16-35 II ?

 
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Jan 04, 2012 13:32 |  #1

The Canon 16-35 f/2.8 II has an awesome 14 point starburst when stopped down. You can see a few examples of this as you scroll down this page in the lens archive thread.

Can anyone tell me if the 16-35 f/2.8 version I gives this same starburst? I looked through the lens archive for this lens also, but it seems like it is only used by daytime shooters.

Please point to examples if you have any.


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Jan 04, 2012 14:43 |  #2

Well at least they both have 7 aperture blades which will give you 14 pointed sunstars when stopped down.




  
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Jan 04, 2012 14:47 |  #3

ALL lenses will give that star effect from strong, small points of light (such as street lights at night) if you stop down enough, say f/8, f/10 or smaller.

The number of points depends on the number of aperture blades the particular lens has. Lenses with an ODD number of blades gives 2 times the points (like Xcelx pointed, 7 blades = 14 pointed stars). Lenses with an EVEN number of blades gives points equal to the blade # (lens with 8 aperture blades = 8 pointed stars).


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Jan 04, 2012 14:55 |  #4

I got a similar effect from my nifty fifty at 1.8 when I did this shot. It is small but still got that starburst effect.

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Jan 04, 2012 15:20 |  #5

Here are two daytime examples one is from the Canon 85mm 1.8, 8 bladed aperture and Sigma 10-20mm, 7 bladed aperture. Both shot at f/16


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Jan 04, 2012 15:23 |  #6

cdo221 wrote in post #13646371 (external link)
ALL lenses will give that star effect from strong, small points of light (such as street lights at night) if you stop down enough, say f/8, f/10 or smaller.

Yes, but they all look different (length, width, sharpness, etc). I'm specifically interested in whether or not the ones from the 16-35 I look identical to the 16-35 II.

The number of points depends on the number of aperture blades the particular lens has. Lenses with an ODD number of blades gives 2 times the points (like Xcelx pointed, 7 blades = 14 pointed stars). Lenses with an EVEN number of blades gives points equal to the blade # (lens with 8 aperture blades = 8 pointed stars).

Interesting. I did not know that.


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Jan 04, 2012 15:29 |  #7

Xcelx wrote in post #13646558 (external link)
Here are two daytime examples one is from the Canon 85mm 1.8, 8 bladed aperture and Sigma 10-20mm, 7 bladed aperture. Both shot at f/16

I love everything about the Sigma 10-20 except the starbursts and the way it handles flare when stopped down. I sold my 10-20 for this reason and was going to get a Canon 10-22, but got a 5D II & 17-40 instead.

The ones on the 17-40 are better than the Sigma 10-20, especially at f/18 and smaller, but they are still not as good as the 16-35 II. I'll probably be swapping my 17-40 for the 16-35, but I'd rather have the one with the 77mm filter size than the one with the 82mm filter size. The quality of the starbursts are a very important part of my decision on which one to purchase.


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Jan 04, 2012 17:18 |  #8

Is there a shop near you that has the 16-35II in stock? and they'll let you try it out?




  
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Jan 04, 2012 17:41 |  #9

rick_reno wrote in post #13647162 (external link)
Is there a shop near you that has the 16-35II in stock? and they'll let you try it out?

I don't need to try it out because I already know what the starbursts from that lens look like. I'm wondering how the 16-35 I is in comparison. That lens is discontinued and can only be found on used gear forums.


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Jan 04, 2012 17:50 |  #10

I had the 16-35 II. Nice lens but, got rid of it for other reasons.

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Jan 04, 2012 18:21 |  #11

OK, I went through the lens sample thread one more time and found a sample that answers my question.
No, the starburst from the 16-35 I does not look anything like the starburst from the 16-35 II. It looks more like the one from my old Sigma 10-20.

Now that I have my answer, I am unsubscribing from my own thread.


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Jan 04, 2012 22:13 |  #12

No Angle wrote in post #13646410 (external link)
I got a similar effect from my nifty fifty at 1.8 when I did this shot. It is small but still got that starburst effect.
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Jan 04, 2012 22:46 |  #13

No Angle wrote in post #13646410 (external link)
I got a similar effect from my nifty fifty at 1.8 when I did this shot. It is small but still got that starburst effect.

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The heck!?!? How did you manage to not get over exposed lights!!!? This thread has sparked my interest ^^


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Jan 04, 2012 23:01 |  #14

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The heck!?!? How did you manage to not get over exposed lights!!!? This thread has sparked my interest ^^

Try shooting at f10-f11. ;)




  
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