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High School Basketball Lens Help

 
jsanz11
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Nov 15, 2005 11:54 |  #1

I just got the new EF 50mm 1:1.8
i was told this lens was great for indoor sports...what settings should i put my camera too to get some good pictures? i usually ilke using the manual setting but i still can't seem to get the pictures to come out just right...any help would be great.
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Nov 15, 2005 14:03 |  #2

Joey - I tried shooting basketball with my 50mm once and wasn't happy with the results. The lens was fast enough but I needed a bit more reach. With the 50mm I think you'll get your best results by first positioning yourself as close to the action as possible -- like almost under the backboard. Then you'll probably need to shoot at 1/350 or faster to stop the action. You might want to try AV mode, open up to f/1.8 or 2.0 then dial in whatever ISO you need to get a shutter speed of 1/350 or faster. Maybe one of the basketball shooters will chime in and help us a bit more here.


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Nov 17, 2005 14:12 |  #3

what other lens do you recomend besides the 50mm? i was looking at the 85mm one...run about 350$ correct? thing i hate abotu these lenses is they have no zoom...
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Nov 17, 2005 14:58 |  #4

Trust me... you will appreciate f1.8 vs 2.8 much more then any zoom - though I do wish there was a 1.8 zoom. You really don't need a zoom - Basketball has a very defined are where the action happens, and if for some reason action does fall outside of that area, you have both a cleaner image because it is a prime, and you have the extra stops, which means that you have the option of shooting at a lower ISO, so croping is still an option. With a 2.8, you have ISO pegged, and because of the resulting noise, your post options are significantly reduced.

Specifically, to your lens, it is pretty good but not the best. You should be able to get some reasonably good images with it though. Just remember that if you are shooting directly below the net and shooting action 10 feet infront of you, your DOF will be really thin. Cheers and good luck with it.




  
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Nov 17, 2005 15:19 |  #5

thanks..i'm gonna try it out today with some middle school basketball...i'll share some pics tonight...


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Nov 17, 2005 18:28 |  #6
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I shoot gym sports and find that the 85mm/1.8 is a real gem. It's fast and is the perfect focal length when you're shooting from the 3-point line.



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Nov 17, 2005 22:12 |  #7

here are the pictures i took...i get a lot of blur with auto focus...do most of you sports guys use manual focus? i used the 50mm lens i just bought...
coments and suggestions please
-joey

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Nov 17, 2005 22:13 |  #8

also this gym is very poor lit...the pictures are much brigher than really is in that gym
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Nov 17, 2005 23:21 as a reply to  @ jsanz11's post |  #9

Begin with the end in mind. If you are not positioned in a location suitable for your lens then your results will fall short of expectations.

With a 50mm lens the location is usually under or down along the baseline to get the action in the key - rebounds, lay-ups, or in the case of youth basketball.. that giant heard of kids bashing into each other trying to get the ball. *s*




  
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Nov 17, 2005 23:21 |  #10

Try it with just the center focus dot.




  
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Nov 17, 2005 23:23 |  #11

how do u only use the center dot?


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Nov 17, 2005 23:33 |  #12

on mine i press the af point selector button at the top right on the back of the camera. then look at the screen or in the viewfinder. turn the dial or wheel until you get to the center dot. You can change it back anytime.




  
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Nov 17, 2005 23:49 |  #13

i don't have the dial...i havea rebel..
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Nov 18, 2005 10:14 |  #14

main dial by the shutter button.




  
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Nov 18, 2005 10:29 |  #15

the images blurry from missed focus.

you need to be shooting servo mode, or prefocusing in MF (what camera do you have.. if the 300d, the only way assure to get servo is the "Sports mode" or do some crazy trick to get it to know the subject is moving)



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