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Jan 05, 2012 12:26 |  #31

Delija wrote in post #13647725 (external link)
I can't imagine taking a plate off a tripod ring. I have A/S plates on my big lenses and I mounted them with a socket wrench - I'm stunned when I see someone use a coin...

How about finger tight? I regularly remove and replace the Manfrotto plates from my equipment and have never found a plate loose, much less had something fall off.

Are you applying the proper amount of torque with that wrench? Did you properly prepare the threads before assembly?


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Jan 05, 2012 12:37 |  #32

The XSi really is pretty small and light, unless you have a monster lens and/or a big flash attached to it.... plus a battery grip!

But, I gotta admit the straps Canon provides with the cameras sort of suck. It helps if you flip up your shirt collar so that it provides some extra padding.

I use OpTech... mostly. In fact, Canon CPS sends me a nice new strap each year... and it's an OpTech, too. I've got them on my cameras, lenses, several shoulder bags, tripod bag.

There are some other good ones.... UpStrap comes to mind. Domke, too. Haven't tried them all, but most are an improvement over what comes in the box with the camera.


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Jan 05, 2012 12:38 |  #33

I hate straps.

I have a neoprene optech, but I use it maybe 1 hour per year.


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Jan 05, 2012 13:04 |  #34

I have this OPTech
http://www.amazon.com …TF8&qid=1325790​077&sr=8-1 (external link)
and a Wrist Guard Strap.
http://www.amazon.com …TF8&qid=1325790​127&sr=1-1 (external link)

I have both on the camera. But pretty much only use the wrist guard one. It can never fail you. You are always holding it, nobody can cut the neck strap away and steal it from you. Just perfect. You don't need to have superhuman strength. I am a 145 lb with the thinnest wrist. :)
The one drawback with the wrist guard is is best if you don't have it mounted with the guard on the tripod. Tends to move a lot and so, it is best to unscrew the strap mount and then mount the dslr to the tripod mount directly.


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Jan 05, 2012 13:39 as a reply to  @ thallikar's post |  #35

I almost always carry a 400 or 300mm lens all day long on a 7d. I use the canon strap
that came with it AND something I found in the auto section of a store....a cushioned
piece that has velcro and is made to wrap around the seat belt to protect clothing. (It slides rather than the belt "grabbing" your clothing.) It works great on any camera strap.




  
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Jan 05, 2012 13:55 |  #36

Is this the biggest rip off of black rapid out there?

http://www.amazon.com …TF8&qid=1325792​656&sr=1-1 (external link)

I'm never happy with the straps on my cameras... the stock canon ones are lame, wore that out. Had a smug mug strap for a while, that was nice... wore it out. I currently have a OpTech pro loop strap that's really nice, very comfy and is lasting quite a long time but it's too short for me and I haven't decided if I want to put extensions in there (4 quick release points that may someday break.. ugh)

I think I want to find a sling... the BR ones don't appeal to me because of the tripod connection and the past stories of bonking your camera on the ground.

Here's one that looks interesting but it suffers from the same flaw as the BR straps
http://www.sun-sniper.com/en/the-steel.html (external link)

Luma Loop was a good looking strap that Black Rapid managed to get killed off... so they have a new product called the cinch coming out shortly that may be superior
http://lu.ma/ (external link)




  
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Jan 05, 2012 15:16 |  #37

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I can't imagine taking a plate off a tripod ring. I have A/S plates on my big lenses and I mounted them with a socket wrench - I'm stunned when I see someone use a coin...

Unregistered.Coward wrote in post #13651746 (external link)
How about finger tight? I regularly remove and replace the Manfrotto plates from my equipment and have never found a plate loose, much less had something fall off.

Are you applying the proper amount of torque with that wrench? Did you properly prepare the threads before assembly?

Not sure if you are serious or just poking fun at me.. ??

But just in case you mean it ..which seems unlikely looking at your list of equipment - I'd think you would know how much torque there is if a long and heavy lens is even pushed with a light amount of force from the area of the hood. The leverage of the length greatly increases that force at the pivot point where the QR plate is attached to the tripod ring (or less likely with a big lens - to the camera itself).

It helps to use a dedicated plate a lot - those made for specific cameras or grips are shaped to not twist. Almost all lens plates have a "lip" that can be put up against either the front or rear of the tripod mount's "foot" to prevent twisting too. But the dedicated plates are pretty useless if you want to use them on anything else.


Using "finger-tight" force is close to impossible unless the plate has one of those loops that swing out to grab. I think I've only seen them on Manfrotto plates.... like this one:

IMAGE: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ymRghML7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg



The problem with that is obvious as far as not being able to get them on very tightly - but I guess if you are constantly moving a plate from one piece of equipment to another, then you'd be aware of a plate loosening up. I'm sure that they are perfectly adequate for light weight cameras or even for full size SLR cameras as long as they are used with a small and short lens. But long heavy expensive lenses? I think it's pretty obvious why virtually all pro sports photographers use Arca/Swiss clamps and plates on their huge and expensive lenses - an I am sure they never switch plates. I wouldn't be surprised if they use Lock-Tite when they put a plate on a big lens.

Manfrotto has their own proprietary plates and they don't have one standard that fits all their heads or clamps - even if you buy the extra plates, which can be expensive, how (for example) would it make sense to use a large pentagonal shaped plate on a lens collar?

After using their stuff for a while...years really, I just replaced every clamp I have with an Arca/Swiss clamp and now it's just easy to keep a plate on each lens and body - and know that everything is compatible and very secure - two tripods and two mono-pods and everything fits and is interchangeable. I even put A/S clamps on a couple of Manfrotto mono-pod tilt heads. I just removed the screw in piece with the big round plastic wheel and went to Home Depot and got a screw that holds an A/S type clamp to the basic tilt-head which cost about half as much without the Manfrotto QR clamp.

I just copied what Kirk does - only it cost me a fraction of the Kirk version (that also uses the exact same Manfrotto monopod head). Photo below is of a Kirk monopod head from the B&H site - the thing costs $100. I was able to make my own for about half that. My clamp isn't as nice and doesn't have a spirit level, but a level on a monopod seems like a waste. Can't even see it if using a large lens.
IMAGE: http://static.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/555294.jpg

Wow, what a nice picture! You must have a really great camera!

  
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