Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Transportation 
Thread started 06 Jan 2012 (Friday) 00:39
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

[air] Spirit of Nebraska - B-2

 
rammsteinmatt
Senior Member
260 posts
Joined Aug 2011
Location: So Cal
     
Jan 06, 2012 00:39 |  #1

Salmo22 has been bothering me with his insanely awesome b&w conversions, got me thinking... This is one of the few times i'll post a non-standard aspect ratio photo, they generally dont appeal to me but that's what i had to work with this the time.

What do you guys think? It's only my 4th b&w conversion, be mean, I dare you.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

Abstract Spirit of Nebraska (external link) by The_Shinny (external link), on Flickr

The Shinny
Now with more elements in more groups!
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Salmo22
Senior Member
Avatar
758 posts
Likes: 44
Joined Oct 2010
Location: Mesa, Arizona
     
Jan 06, 2012 05:29 |  #2

Matt - In general, I like both this conversion and your Tigercat. I can't really comment fully on your B-2 crop/composition without seeing what the original uncropped image looked like. Maybe you could post that also (i.e. a before and after). Once I could see the original, I could possible suggest an alternative crop. As far as aspect ratio, I don't think this image lends itself to a "pano" type ratio as you've currently cropped.

For me, monochromes are about contrast and tonality. I try to have the primary elements separated from the background via differences in detail, structure, exposure, etc. Often this means I must dodge or burn various areas within the image. That can be accomplished numerous ways and requires that you experiment and find what works best for you - something I continue to refine with each image I convert.

You've made a great start - keep at it.


Jeff - flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Leftcoast_Mike
Goldmember
Avatar
2,575 posts
Likes: 14
Joined Aug 2009
Location: Langley, BC
     
Jan 06, 2012 13:30 |  #3

rammsteinmatt wrote in post #13655438 (external link)
Salmo22 has been bothering me with his insanely awesome b&w conversions, got me thinking... This is one of the few times i'll post a non-standard aspect ratio photo, they generally dont appeal to me but that's what i had to work with this the time.

What do you guys think? It's only my 4th b&w conversion, be mean, I dare you.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

Abstract Spirit of Nebraska (external link) by The_Shinny (external link), on Flickr

Ive gone back and redone some B&W conversions 3,4,5 times because of Jeff haha.

good start on this one! I saw a B-2 years ago through a window of a tranining school once. It was in for a rest and fuel in Northern Quebec.


My Facebook Page (external link)
My Website (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rammsteinmatt
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
260 posts
Joined Aug 2011
Location: So Cal
     
Jan 06, 2012 16:42 |  #4

Ok Jeff... First off, thanks for all the help you've given so far - whether you know it or not - looking forward to what you come up with

I saw Mikekelly's Nellis static thread a while back (https://photography-on-the.net …=1115270&highli​ght=static) and really liked the abstract look his photos had, so I attempted to apply that same principle here. You'll see the original picture is fairly rubbish in terms of uninteresting clutter - specifically the NLG and all that assorted unpleasantness and the cars in the BG. I think im in the "simpler is better" phase of photography right now - in terms of subject - although that's probably the "right" attitude to have when going about things ;-)a Perhaps, level along the LE and include the engine intake as well as sort of an aircraft bodyscape principle? I'll defer to your judgement.

As you'll see, with my crop high megapixelage on the body was fairly convenient. Processing was done in PS CS4 (along with the simpler is better theme) there is only a desaturation and some radical curves tweaking, then leveled to the wing LE (maybe you can see a little barrel distortion?) and a crop. I'm really trying not to buy silver efex, but i know the individual sliders are what separate your shots from everyone else, and i'm not exactly excited about a ton of masks in PS.

Again, thanks for any insight you give. To think I probably sat next to you on the bus and at dinner at El Centro and didnt even know I was sitting next to an encyclopedia... :(

OOC


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


The Shinny
Now with more elements in more groups!
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Nmcgrew
Senior Member
874 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Oct 2010
Location: Mill Creek, WA
     
Jan 07, 2012 17:08 |  #5

I like the direction you're heading and have one suggestion that I think would work. Crop the deadspace on the left out. In fact, try a crop line that slightly cuts just the tip of the nose off, but keep the right hand crop line about the same. Then it will look like a plane-scape.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rammsteinmatt
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
260 posts
Joined Aug 2011
Location: So Cal
     
Jan 10, 2012 00:13 |  #6

Slightly more contrasty. Cropped to nmcgrew's specifications ;) I'm liking this better already

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

Another Go (external link) by The_Shinny (external link), on Flickr

Question. if you cruise through the B&W forum here, why does it seem that all the pics have super harsh contrast (no dynamic range barely) and all appear to be way underexposed with hot spots? is that the cool new trend (or the way film did it)? I really like to see the picture when i take it, so i generally try to properly expose, capture some detail, etc... evidently that would make me a poor B&W photographer based on my observations here. I greatly prefer what appear to be stacked images for super dynamic range that Jeff has been pushing out recently

The Shinny
Now with more elements in more groups!
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Nmcgrew
Senior Member
874 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Oct 2010
Location: Mill Creek, WA
     
Jan 10, 2012 11:47 |  #7

Yes! That's the crop I was talking about. I would like to see it with the blacks pulled up a tad. The areas that should be dark are a bit grey to me. Talking about B&W conversions, there is a trend these days to use maximum black conversions a lot and blow out the highlights. People end up killing or not caring about the mid-range when they do that.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rammsteinmatt
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
260 posts
Joined Aug 2011
Location: So Cal
     
Jan 10, 2012 23:35 |  #8

IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6677256093_2307cd0583_z.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …/mattshinavar/6​677256093/  (external link)
Third Times a Charm (external link) by The_Shinny (external link), on Flickr

OK, I reckon we've got true blacks with the generally accepted best crop. I think im liking this a lot now. Thanks for all the help guys

The Shinny
Now with more elements in more groups!
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Nmcgrew
Senior Member
874 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Oct 2010
Location: Mill Creek, WA
     
Jan 11, 2012 12:19 |  #9

Oh yeah, that's nice!




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Leftcoast_Mike
Goldmember
Avatar
2,575 posts
Likes: 14
Joined Aug 2009
Location: Langley, BC
     
Jan 11, 2012 12:25 |  #10

rammsteinmatt wrote in post #13683747 (external link)
QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …/mattshinavar/6​677256093/  (external link)
Third Times a Charm (external link) by The_Shinny (external link), on Flickr

OK, I reckon we've got true blacks with the generally accepted best crop. I think im liking this a lot now. Thanks for all the help guys

well done :D


My Facebook Page (external link)
My Website (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,370 views & 0 likes for this thread, 4 members have posted to it.
[air] Spirit of Nebraska - B-2
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Transportation 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Niagara Wedding Photographer
1543 guests, 147 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.