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Jan 06, 2012 23:18 |  #1

I did some photos with a friend today and he use one of his lady-pals as the model. I was not too pleased with the lights - we used his inexpensive lights with "bounce umbrellas" pointed at the model, then two more lights in back to light the backdrop.

Here's one of the shots that demonstrates the harshness of the light/shadows:

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In hindsight, I think I should have used my minisoftbox/B800 up front as a key light, and maybe not used a 2nd light up front.... It seemed to not have enough power to shoot at f/8 and I didn't want it to be too close so that it would be in the shot.

ANY and all help is appreciated - we're shootin' some more on Sunday :)

Also, We had a Trigger one one of the flashes and the other were consistently misfiring - very annoying. Is it normal to rely on the optical triggers in such a small room, or should we have used a radio trigger on each strobe? (Hell, you can see in the pic above that the strobe on the right side ISN'T lighting the backdrop!)

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Jan 06, 2012 23:39 |  #2

She's seems a bit dark and the white seem less is kind of distracting being that it's in that corner only


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Jan 06, 2012 23:41 |  #3

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She's seems a bit dark and the white seem less is kind of distracting being that it's in that corner only

I agree - I kinda hate using backdrop because when they're only in a portion of the frame like this, it doesn't make any sense.... I guess I could have shot much wider to make it look "right"... I donno. What about them shadows!?


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Jan 06, 2012 23:48 |  #4

Once the experts show up, you'll get some good advice. A few things I can note:

To get softer shadows, you need the umbrellas closer to the subject. You have plenty of room to move them closer and still keep them out of frame.

Optical slaves should work fine in this environment, maybe you have something set wrong?

Looks like the back left BG light is too hot IMO, you're getting some wrap on the subject's arm, and she seems underexposed in comparison.

Pretty subject, have fun at the next shoot. You have a nice large space to work in there, I am envious.


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Jan 06, 2012 23:50 |  #5

Yeah, this dude's roommates have a VERY large house - so large that people spend the night and nobody knows about it - like Cale:

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Cale was kind enough to provide us with some DJ stuffz - but i'm not really sure how I feel about this shot - though I do like the lighting in it better - go figure

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Jan 06, 2012 23:52 |  #6

If you're going to only shoot that tight, no need for the white BG. The brown wall would be fine, then a bit of light from the rear (hidden behind couch) for hair and rim. Or, leave the BG up, but don't light it.


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Jan 06, 2012 23:58 |  #7

That's the thing - the backdrop was already there and my buddy bought all of the stuff as a "kit" and felt compelled to use all of it :/ I guess I should have known better. We'll try various things next time. I am very new to completely "artificial" lighting and backdrops and such.


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Jan 07, 2012 00:07 |  #8

Ok, in the one you added, BG is needed, but you wouldn't have to light it white, you could try not lighting it directly and letting it go grey. Shoot some each way and see which look you prefer.


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Jan 07, 2012 00:15 |  #9

Well, with the harshness of the light, it'd likely just have harsh shadows from her on it, and gray in other places. Once I learn to light more "smoothly", maybe I can take away the BG lights :)


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Jan 07, 2012 10:53 |  #10

Here's one of the shots that demonstrates the harshness of the light/shadows:

The farther away your lights are, the more of a point source you have. If you want softer shadows, you either need a larger source, or you need to move it closer.


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