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Jan 11, 2012 11:23 |  #1

I recently sold some of the lenses I own, some were from a recent Amazon 60D/printer/lens deal, and one I had for a few years. I currently have a Canon 50mm f/1.4 and a Sigma 17-50 f/2.8. I mostly take photos of my kids, a 10 month old, and 2 older kids playing soccer or T-ball.
Initially, thanks to the deals, I was eying the 70-200mm IS MkII, I figured it would be great for sports. But than also started looking at the 100mm f/2.8 Macro lens. Money is obviously an object, otherwise I'd just buy both now :D.
Any suggestions as far as which lens would be more useful in my bag? I would describe myself as a novice at photography.
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Jan 11, 2012 11:42 |  #2

gizmo17 wrote in post #13685861 (external link)
I recently sold some of the lenses I own, some were from a recent Amazon 60D/printer/lens deal, and one I had for a few years. I currently have a Canon 50mm f/1.4 and a Sigma 17-50 f/2.8. I mostly take photos of my kids, a 10 month old, and 2 older kids playing soccer or T-ball.
Initially, thanks to the deals, I was eying the 70-200mm IS MkII, I figured it would be great for sports. But than also started looking at the 100mm f/2.8 Macro lens. Money is obviously an object, otherwise I'd just buy both now :D.
Any suggestions as far as which lens would be more useful in my bag? I would describe myself as a novice at photography.
Thanks!

i had the 100mm macro and returned it. nice but not really useful if you aren't doing macro.

id go for the 70-200. L glass is L glass.


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Jan 11, 2012 11:52 |  #3

To first answer your question. Given the choices and what you shoot the 70-200 is the best choice. Range, quality, focussing, it's just a superior lens.

That being said, as a novice, shooting what you shoot, you might ask yourself if you need, rather than want, a $2K piece of glass (you said, "Money is obviously an object"). A MkI of the same lens or the OS version of the same range in Sigma Land might be right up your ally.

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Jan 11, 2012 12:04 |  #4

or go for the f4 version and get a monopod.


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Jan 11, 2012 12:06 as a reply to  @ Fernando's post |  #5

I would go for the 70-200 IS f/4 or 2.8 IS mark I or II, i have shot soccer with both the 4 stop and my 2.8 , they are brilliant for it. I have also shot soccer with the 100mm 2.8 L, it did well, but its only 100mm, it will be short sometimes, but the L version is fast enough and long enough kid soccer if youre standing by the sideline. If you shoot tons off macro , go with the macro lens, it doubles also as a long portrait lens. The 2.8 IS lens is also a super portrait lens.


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Jan 11, 2012 12:07 |  #6

gizmo17 wrote in post #13685861 (external link)
I recently sold some of the lenses I own, some were from a recent Amazon 60D/printer/lens deal, and one I had for a few years. I currently have a Canon 50mm f/1.4 and a Sigma 17-50 f/2.8. I mostly take photos of my kids, a 10 month old, and 2 older kids playing soccer or T-ball.
Initially, thanks to the deals, I was eying the 70-200mm IS MkII, I figured it would be great for sports. But than also started looking at the 100mm f/2.8 Macro lens. Money is obviously an object, otherwise I'd just buy both now :D.
Any suggestions as far as which lens would be more useful in my bag? I would describe myself as a novice at photography.
Thanks!

a 70-200 zoom is a must-have lens. a 100mm macro is not.

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Jan 11, 2012 12:10 |  #7

Good advice so far. Your other two lenses cover the walk around and kid portrait requirement nicely. Set a budget and choose the best 70-200 you can afford. If it's the f/4 version, you're still doing ok!

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Jan 11, 2012 12:13 |  #8

Another thumbs up for any of the 70-200 versions, great lens to have.


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Jan 11, 2012 12:29 |  #9

I'd also recommend one of the 70-200s as a much more versatile lens. You will not find many pro Canon shooters who don't have one in their camera bag. Any of the four versions (or the recently discontinued f2.8 IS "Mark I") is a real workhorse of a lens. Great image quality from them all, so that's not a big concern.

If most of your shooting is outdoors in daylight, the f4 might be plenty of lens. If possible, go check them out in person. The f2.8 is a much larger and heavier lens, in addition to more expensive. For the greatest versatility, get one of the IS versions. Some will tell you that IS isn't necessary for sports or fast moving 2 year olds, but it's always nice to have, IS can help even at higher shutter speeds, and a lens with IS just opens up more shooting opportunities.

Only Canon offers f4 versions of 70-200... and that lens doesn't come with a tripod mounting ring. It's up to you, whether you want one or not. The f2.8 lenses come with a tripod ring. If you get an f4 version do decide you want a t'pod ring, check out the 3rd party clones on eBay (and at some of the major retailers). They are much less expensive than the Canon tripod mounting ring.

One possible reason to want the latest 70-200/2.8 IS Mark II version is if you think you'll want to use it with teleconverters. The earlier models work well with 1.4X, but not so great with a 2X teleconverter. The newer lens works very well with both, especially the new Mark III teleconverters. The newest lens also has more effective IS and improved bokeh. It's a very nice lens... only you can say if it's worth the significatly higher price, extra size and weight. I still haven't "upgraded" from the "Mark I" I've been using for around ten years.

If you have a yen to do occasional macro, simply get a set of macro extension tubes, such as the Kenko. Those can be used with any lens, to make it much closer focusing. Canon sells individual 12mm and 25mm tubes, but personally I think the Kenko set is a better value (the set includes 12mm, 20mm and 36mm). Following was shot with a 25mm tube on my 70-200/2.8 IS:

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EF 70-200mm f2.8 IS lens, EOS-3 camera. Settings unrecorded. Ektachrome E100VS film. Gitzo 1325 tripod with Kirk BH-1 ballhead. Fill flash, 550EX.


I was set up alongside a stream to shoot egrets, and noticed this guy almost right in front of me, so quickly changed subjects. Didn't have a macro lens with me. But I always have macro extension tubes, just in case. Never did get any good shots of egrets that day! Magnification is probalby one third to half life size in this shot (approx. 1:3-1:2 or 0.33X-0.5X). It was a pretty large spider, though a whole lot smaller - and friendlier - than the tarantulas we get around here. Without any extension tubes, depending upon lens model the 70-200s can do between 0.16X to 0.21X on their own (all at 200mm, 1:8 or 1:5 approx.)

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Jan 11, 2012 13:05 as a reply to  @ amfoto1's post |  #10

Thanks for the great advice. I was looking at the L version of the 100mm, I inadvertantly left it off. I only recently thought about the macro lens after reading another thread where someone said how great it is for shooting photos of babies.

As far as the 70-200, if I'm going to put a dent in my bank account, I'm going to go all the way! :D I justify it to myself (and wifey) by telling myself I'll recoup most of it if I deceide to sell it one day. It's like a savings bond that you can get use out of (as long as it doesn't get stolen or damaged)! It also helps that I got some gift certificates for amazon (thank you Citibank!). Now if I can only trick Amazon to put this lens in my Gold box! ;)


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