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Jan 13, 2012 18:49 |  #1

In the January 2012 issue of PPA mag, there is a 2 page article about direct mail advertising. For anyone who subscribes, it's on pages 44 and 45. Anyhow, the article is very intriguing in a few ways.

The photographer talks about about a ~25% increase in business due in part to direct mail advertising. He also talkes about his first direct mail campaign generating about 120K in revenue in the first 6 months.

The article didn't get too deep into the process behint direct mail. It felt more like a "ha-ha" article.

Aside from social network advertising, does anyone here incorporate direct mail advertising?

And if so, how did you start?


I am contemplating this as a marketing source for 2012 and wold love some insight.

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Jan 13, 2012 19:09 |  #2

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......​..... I've done it for other business. I'm not a photographer by trade.

But, even without reading the article, that photographer is saying +25% in business, let's say that's the same time frame as his $120K increase in business, to be safe. That would mean his business started with a 6 month revenue baseline of, what, about $400K, which means he was doing about $800K a year already? Really? If so, that's pretty big for a photographer already, isn't it? (If true, it meant s/he already had a few thousand customers, right?)

Do you find that credible?

Here's the rough math on DM.

You will have to acquire a targeted, validated mailing list.

You should expect a 1% hit rate, 2-3 if you're really doing well, where a 'hit' is someone inquiring about your services. You might close, as business, 1 in 5 of those, or 20%.

That would be a success.

So, say you do weddings -and- have all of the staff to handle the increase in business. Each wedding is net profit of $1K, just to make the numbers round.

If you wanted $100K more profit, and you'll have to do the math because I'm in a lounge now, how many direct mail pieces would you need delivered to do that?

x items * 2% response * 20% close = $100K. Profit. If and only if your list is 100% exactly on target, and 100% valid addresses.

Your list for mailing will vary in quality. Figure about 1/3rd of what the list seller says will hit a target.

So, if each list costs you $1K, and you need three, and you have to send a couple hundred thousand mail pieces at ~$1 fully-loaded cost per piece, does it make any sense to you?

That means you need (a) a cheap list which is (b) right on target matching your exact services.

That may be possible. There are specialty magazines which do list rental, which is to say you can have THEM send a piece to all subscribers, maybe as a blow-in. That might work. But if you were going to try, talk to references who have done it before.

..........

It occurs to me that the article you read is short on details because it isn't true.


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Jan 13, 2012 19:54 |  #3

Thanks for the detailed response, Sam.

I agree with you in regards to the photog needing at least 500K in revenue prior to the mailer which is HUGE for photography.

My goal for 2012 is to triple the number of sessions I shot in 2011. I started mu business in March of 2011 and to date, have 10 senior session and roughly 35 family sessions under my belt. I shot 2 weddings in 2011 and already have 3 booked.

As a professional, I am always looking for ways to make money, even if it means driving mailbox to mailbox delivering postcards promoting my business.

If it is indeed far from the truth, why would the publishers of PPA publish this??


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Jan 13, 2012 20:37 |  #4

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As a professional, I am always looking for ways to make money, even if it means driving mailbox to mailbox delivering postcards promoting my business.

I'm sorry this statement just gets me, as a postal worker. You'd rather take money out of a carriers pocket than advertise legally?

Not to say that I don't wish you the best I your profession.


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Jan 14, 2012 09:00 |  #5

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For the record, I didn't mean literally drive. What I meant was if that's what it took(driving mailbox to milbox). :)

But going back to my original question, how do you incorporate direct mailing into your business?


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Jan 14, 2012 09:25 |  #6

Direct mail = you drop it off yourself?

I have 200 promotional pamphlets ready to be delivered...just need to find a little time thats all. Already handed out about 60-70

I hear it's illegal to drive mailbox to mailbox and put the mail INSIDE the box? This true? If so I should just leave it on the fed flag huh?


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Direct mail = you drop it off yourself?

I have 200 promotional pamphlets ready to be delivered...just need to find a little time thats all. Already handed out about 60-70

I hear it's illegal to drive mailbox to mailbox and put the mail INSIDE the box? This true? If so I should just leave it on the fed flag huh?

Yes. Physically opening a mailbox is a federal offense since it's property of the US Postal Service.

You would either have to hang it on the mailbox flag which is susceptible to weather or walk door to door.


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Yes. Physically opening a mailbox is a federal offense since it's property of the US Postal Service.

You would either have to hang it on the mailbox flag which is susceptible to weather or walk door to door.

By the way, the key to saving the USPS is in that statement.

Too bad they have zero leaders who could do anything with it and save a couple hundred thousand jobs.


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@Lisa
For the record, I didn't mean literally drive. What I meant was if that's what it took(driving mailbox to milbox). :)

But going back to my original question, how do you incorporate direct mailing into your business?

I get what you mean, now.

If it helps any, every Wednesday the local newspaper has us deliver a "free" issue to the nonsubscribers to drum up business. I don't know how much the bulk rate is for the mass. If you had a certain area you wanted to market to, ask the manager at the post office to help you with it. It would certainly save gas money and time rather than going door to door. The carrier carrying the mail more than likely already has to stop at the addresses anyway. FWIW


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