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Strictly prime user considers ultrazoom - HELP!

 
Erik_L
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Jan 18, 2012 03:29 |  #1

I'm a prideful, pixel-peeping prime user. I've long hated the idea of the Canon 28-300 existing, but recently, i'm very interested in buying this lens for some adventures my friends and I may partake in. We'll be on a boat, going all over the place and won't be in any condition to be changing lenses all the time, letalone carrying them around with me.

Any of you prime-time guys give into your dark desires of convenience and cave to the blessings of an ultrazoom?

I guess what I want to know is... will I be completely disappointed by the images from this lens? I'll undoubtedly be comparing each image to one that I could have taken with an equivalent FL prime....

What do I do?!


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Jan 18, 2012 04:23 |  #2

A 24-105L may cover your needs, no ? Do you really need a telezoom ?

The prime lover that I am will take on next week holidays : 24mm f/2.8 (Olympus OM adapted), 35 f/1.4, 70mm f/2.8 and 200mm f/2.8. Okay that's many lenses but I prefer aperture, thin dof and IQ than flexibility...

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Jan 18, 2012 05:29 as a reply to  @ titi_67207's post |  #3

Sounds like it's not a matter of convenience in this case but a matter of whether or not you can even get the shots you want. Do you want a thousand perfectly crisp pictures of your buddies sunburnt hairy legs taken with your 135 f2, or is it more important to capture the experience and the things you might never see again? :lol:

The 28-300 isn't exactly a hobbyist/casual consumer lens. It's not like you're going to a disposable camera or something. Just take a look through the Sample Photo Thread if you're worried: https://photography-on-the.net …&highlight=28-300&page=30




  
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Jan 18, 2012 05:33 |  #4

What kind of boat is it? I was once on a 100ft boat taking photos of the shoreline and a 70-200 f/4 zoom was more than adequate for the whole day. Closer to the end I switched lenses with another photog who had a 24-70 f/2.8 and used the lens to take a few wide shots, but I rarely had need of less than 70mm unless I wanted the boat into the shot as well.

Any of Canon's 70-200's are certain to make even a prime-lover happy.


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Jan 18, 2012 09:29 |  #5

The 28-300 L is a very good lens. You will not be disappointed. Keep in mind that it is a very heavy lens so if you do allot of walking around with it you will feel it. I had this lens for a couple oof years but sold it when I was raising funds for my 500.


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Jan 18, 2012 16:25 |  #6

It's more like a 14' boat that will be retrofitted with a jet-pump and 120 HP for island-adventures and the like :) Durability and weather sealing are NECESSARY.

I met up with a guy from Craig's list today and played with the 28-300 he had - it has a nice heft, operates nicely and FEELS like something I wouldn't mind using one bit. I'm reasonably happy with the few sample shots I took once they're resized a bit smaller and sharpened - it lacks the contrast and "oomph" that i'm used to... but at 10x zoom.......

Looking at stuff form the wide end, from the inside of the poorly lit coffee shop, makes me a little bit sick. It's pretty lousy. "medium" FLs from this lens look to be acceptable.


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Jan 18, 2012 16:47 |  #7

^^ You can't have it all.

I'm sure the 28-300 is a decent lens or else it would not be an L. It is an older lens model though. Maybe Sigma, Tamron, etc have something newer. Also, is the Canon lens weather sealed? It's other brother, the 100-400, is not.


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Jan 18, 2012 16:48 |  #8

I love mine, It doesn't do its best wide open but stopped down a bit it does pretty well and you just cannot beat the 28-300 at your finger tips. I don't even have time to grab another camera hanging on my shoulder so this really is the only option for me.

It is heavy, I have just found that the Op-tech sling strap reduces the weight to "EASY" from "a bit much after a while". I can easily carry it on a 5D II all day with zero ill effects.

Bottom line, I am more that happy with my choice.




  
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Jan 18, 2012 19:07 |  #9

I prefer two cameras with zoom lenses of a shorter focal range. Not much difference in weight or price and the aperture is quite a bit faster, especially in the lower focal range...


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Jan 18, 2012 19:25 |  #10

Erik, you should hit up X-Tan. He owns this lens and love it.




  
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Jan 18, 2012 19:54 |  #11

Two cameras is not really an option, and I've checked out Tamron and Sigma - Sigma's closest would be 50-500 butcha never know when you'll want something a bit wider, especially on a 1.3x body. Tamron's little crap thing is a plastic nightmare, awful AF motor and no weather sealing - though it's 1/3 the cost or less... also a stop slower. I may just to bite the bullet and buy the 28-300. It IS weather sealed (that is, it has the "ass gasket" on the lens mount) but i'm concerned that water would sneak in through the push/pull sleeve and get blasted into the mirror box.

We'll just have to see....


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Jan 18, 2012 19:56 |  #12

Erik_L wrote in post #13728788 (external link)
Two cameras is not really an option, and I've checked out Tamron and Sigma - Sigma's closest would be 50-500 butcha never know when you'll want something a bit wider, especially on a 1.3x body. Tamron's little crap thing is a plastic nightmare, awful AF motor and no weather sealing - though it's 1/3 the cost or less... also a stop slower. I may just to bite the bullet and buy the 28-300. It IS weather sealed (that is, it has the "ass gasket" on the lens mount) but i'm concerned that water would sneak in through the push/pull sleeve and get blasted into the mirror box.

We'll just have to see....

Are you going to bring a fast prime on your trip?




  
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Jan 18, 2012 20:02 |  #13

I'd probably bring one, just because that's how I am... but with my luck, it's be the "wrong" one :/

it's more of a series of "adventures" rather than a trip.

I feel like a 16-35 would compliment this lens nicely, but that's a lot more money that I don't have... perhaps even the 17-40... Again, money :(


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Jan 18, 2012 20:09 |  #14

ALSO, the guy selling is has it at $1800 right now, but he'll probably take $1700 (can't hurt to try) BUT he's on the fence about selling it - his daughter may want it. Is that a pretty fair price? I've not seen it that low, but I haven't looked very hard either. It looks BRAND NEW (used it today) and comes with all the stuff. UU date code (2006)


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Jan 18, 2012 20:09 |  #15

Erik_L wrote in post #13728831 (external link)
I'd probably bring one, just because that's how I am... but with my luck, it's be the "wrong" one :/

it's more of a series of "adventures" rather than a trip.

I feel like a 16-35 would compliment this lens nicely, but that's a lot more money that I don't have... perhaps even the 17-40... Again, money :(

Considering what you have in your sig atm, I think you'll be fine with the 28-300 and 35 L. You'll be glad that you didn't bring more gear with you. :)




  
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