Clouds with Machinery 2

Dig up some of my old files and test it with Machinery 2 demo version and final process in photoshop. Took this photo in one of my out of town assignment. Had to go out the expressway to take this beautiful clouds formation.

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That looks great

a bit OTT for me but the rays of light are nice

That has got to be on of the biggest sensor dust spots (far left center) I have ever seen. Either that or it's a UFO!

Thank you

crimsonblack wrote in post #13728796
That looks great

I will try a subtle version and see how it looks. Thanks for viewing.

LeeRatters wrote in post #13730934
a bit OTT for me but the rays of light are nice

I'm sure it's dust but definitely not in the sensor. With size that big, I'm sure it would not go un-noticed if it will show in every picture. I saw it before posting but forgot to do some cleanup. Thanks for bringing it out.

Picture North Carolina wrote in post #13737521
That has got to be on of the biggest sensor dust spots (far left center) I have ever seen. Either that or it's a UFO!

I think I asked the question before in another thread, but don't think it was answered...

I love the look of the rays added to the image (I'm assuming they cannot be natural due to the angle), so.........is the angle of the rays adjustable, to make them more realistic?
i.e. can the rays be made to be almost parallel to each other, rather than appearing to come from some huge reflector/light source located just above the clouds? Anything from the sun itelf will appear virtually parallel due to the immense distance to the sun, so while I love the effect, it looks instantly "fake" to me. That may or may not be important, depending on your view, and I don't mean my question to be taken the wrong way, but am curious whether this can be changed/adjusted or not?

thx!

Old Baldy let me explain to you a simple thing actually . With a clear sky you don't see the sun rays cause it's a solid light coming from the sun . However with clouds blocking the rays this makes it easy to see the sun rays through openings in the clouds . Sun rays appears to fan out because clouds work like a mirror and bend light angles . That's the reason for the fanned out shape . I'm sure you already know what i'm talking about . So therefore the angles of beam cannot be changed parallel for this reason . Now i know Cs5 has a tool to change the way things look but only someone that has it now could try it and see if it would work without ruining the image . The only thing i'm having a problem with is the green look . I've seen that in Machinery 2.2 but i don't care for it and i don't know the reason for it . What i would like is to see this picture in original color .

Celestron wrote in post #13737998
Old Baldy let me explain to you a simple thing actually . With a clear sky you don't see the sun rays cause it's a solid light coming from the sun . However with clouds blocking the rays this makes it easy to see the sun rays through openings in the clouds . Sun rays appears to fan out because clouds work like a mirror and bend light angles . That's the reason for the fanned out shape . I'm sure you already know what i'm talking about . So therefore the angles of beam cannot be changed parallel for this reason . Now i know Cs5 has a tool to change the way things look but only someone that has it now could try it and see if it would work without ruining the image . The only thing i'm having a problem with is the green look . I've seen that in Machinery 2.2 but i don't care for it and i don't know the reason for it . What i would like is to see this picture in original color .

So the rays were natural and not added, is what you're saying......OP, is that correct?
If so, then this is a very cool effect to have captured! I've never seen natural rays as dramatic as that, and not at that kind of angle, with the clouds themselves acting as a light-source to that extent.

To Old Baldy: Yes, the rays are natural. It's the reason why it made go out of the expressway just to take the shot as I see it very dramatic. Here' the +0 version of the photo. I just removed the dust mentioned earlier in the post.

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This looks great !

Very nice...and I obviously stand corrected, and apologize for going off at a tangent.
As Celestron says, the clouds must be reflecting the light off to that wider arc. I will pay more attention to light rays in future!

Old Baldy wrote in post #13739064
Very nice...and I obviously stand corrected, and apologize for going off at a tangent.
As Celestron says, the clouds must be reflecting the light off to that wider arc. I will pay more attention to light rays in future!

Here's a link for you :

http://www.atoptics.co​.uk/atoptics/ray1.htm

The clouds have nothing to do with why rays are angled, other than the fact that, in this picture, they provide the openings for the light to shine through. Any obstruction with holes in it would do the same thing if it was at the same altitude. The rays are angled because the light that creates them originates as a PINPOINT light source, the sun, shining through the holes in the clouds, board, cracks in a wall, whatever, and indicate the direction from the hole to the source of light.

my suggestion...

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Gary McDuffie wrote in post #13749107
The clouds have nothing to do with why rays are angled, other than the fact that, in this picture, they provide the openings for the light to shine through. Any obstruction with holes in it would do the same thing if it was at the same altitude. The rays are angled because the light that creates them originates as a PINPOINT light source, the sun, shining through the holes in the clouds, board, cracks in a wall, whatever, and indicate the direction from the hole to the source of light.

I'll not continue to take this thread OT but don't buy this explanation as it doesn't work geometrically to me with the sun 94 million miles away and the clouds maybe 2000 feet above the earth. I'd be very interested to discuss in another thread.