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Jan 18, 2012 22:04 |  #16

RobDickinson wrote in post #13727837 (external link)
This. I have a 7D.

24-70f2.8l has better bokeh and build, weighs a ton, no IS and IMO the wrong focal range.

25-105l is f4 and 'slow' for a crop, works great as a walkround on a FF body tho.

17-55 is all round orsome (tho does suck in some dust and can zoom creep). The Sigma 17-50f2.8OS is almost as good for a fair bit less money tho.

EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS :


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Wow!! those 17-55mm pictures are so nice!
What were the settings and filters used?


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Jan 18, 2012 22:07 |  #17

Preeb wrote in post #13729352 (external link)
Another vote for the 17-55. You won't miss the gap from 55mm to 70mm where you're 70-200 takes over. The speed and IQ can't be beat.

+1

I debated heavily between the 24-70 and 24-105, then heavily between the 24-105 and 17-55. I finally decided on the 17-55 basically because I like the benefits of 2.8 and IS but really because I felt like I needed something wider than 24mm and couldn't justify a 10-22 as it was a little too specialized than the general purpose needs I was looking for. I waned something that was semi-fast but could cover as an 'only lens' walk around if I was trying to travel light and this fits my needs perfectly. I don't miss the gap between 55-70 in the least bit personally.


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Jan 18, 2012 22:09 |  #18

StructuredAmazing wrote in post #13729405 (external link)
Wow!! those 17-55mm pictures are so nice!

Exactly what I was going to post. These are awesome pictures and examples!


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Jan 18, 2012 22:09 |  #19

RobDickinson wrote in post #13727837 (external link)
This. I have a 7D.

24-70f2.8l has better bokeh and build, weighs a ton, no IS and IMO the wrong focal range.

25-105l is f4 and 'slow' for a crop, works great as a walkround on a FF body tho.

17-55 is all round orsome (tho does suck in some dust and can zoom creep). The Sigma 17-50f2.8OS is almost as good for a fair bit less money tho.

EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS :


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Sumner Night 4 (external link) by robjdickinson (external link), on Flickr

http://www.flickr.com/​photos/zarphag/6004341​681/ (external link)
Misty Hagley Park sunrise 3 (external link) by robjdickinson (external link), on Flickr

Nice work which says more about your skill and eye than the lens you happened to use.

Valid point nonetheless.


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Jan 18, 2012 22:13 |  #20

Just to be different I'll suggest that the OP have a look at the Sigma 17-70 OS as well. Variable zoom 2.8 to 4 is a negative for many, but I found that I much prefer this lens over the 17-50/2.8 Tamron non VC that it replaced. And I was a fan of the Tamron.

The 17-70 delivers versatility + very good IQ (however not on par with 17-55 Canon or 17-50 Sigma I imagine). The extra length is nice. OS works well. Also provides some modest macro capability.


  
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Jan 18, 2012 23:14 |  #21

KenjiS wrote in post #13729118 (external link)
Even Dickinson's awesome photos up there were shot at apertures either the 15-85 or 17-55 f/2.8 are capable of...and even IS is kinda a moot consideration since most of his examples (Especially the night ones) are likely done from a tripod

About 50/50 for tripod work I think. I do shoot at f2.8 a fair bit with the 17-55, I find it works quite well even for landscapes, but more often for portraits and 'arty' shots when I dont have some other better suited lens to hand (which is frequently as the 17-55 can do so much). Also works well with flash indoors at 2.8 allowing more ambient light and lower iso.

arctic98z wrote in post #13729433 (external link)
Exactly what I was going to post. These are awesome pictures and examples!

Thanks!

S.Horton wrote in post #13729436 (external link)
Nice work which says more about your skill and eye than the lens you happened to use.

Thanks, to be honest with that set I could have shot them with the kit lens, they would look a bit poorer printed large ( I have 1.5m prints of some of them) but websize you wouldnt tell.


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Jan 18, 2012 23:29 as a reply to  @ post 13729352 |  #22

If the Brick is heavy for you, how come 17-55 2.8 IS isn't?
It just another Brick, but for EF-S mount.
If you don't mind it is same size as 500d or slightly bigger - best choice for you to replace kit lens.


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Jan 18, 2012 23:39 |  #23

645g vs 950g or near 50% more. I wouldnt mind the weight too muchbut its (for me) the wrong focal range on crop.


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Jan 18, 2012 23:39 |  #24

kf095 wrote in post #13729794 (external link)
If the Brick is heavy for you, how come 17-55 2.8 IS isn't?
It just another Brick, but for EF-S mount.
If you don't mind it is same size as 500d or slightly bigger - best choice for you to replace kit lens.


In order:
The 17-55 is 645g / 22.8 oz 110.6mm x 83.5mm / 4.4 in. x 3.3 in.
The 24-105 is 670g / 23.6 oz 123.5mm x 83.2mm / 4.9 in. x 3.3 in.
The 24-70 is 950g / 33.5 oz 107mm x 83mm / 4.2 in. x 3.3 in.


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Jan 19, 2012 00:31 |  #25

arctic98z wrote in post #13729426 (external link)
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I debated heavily between the 24-70 and 24-105, then heavily between the 24-105 and 17-55. I finally decided on the 17-55 basically because I like the benefits of 2.8 and IS but really because I felt like I needed something wider than 24mm and couldn't justify a 10-22 as it was a little too specialized than the general purpose needs I was looking for. I waned something that was semi-fast but could cover as an 'only lens' walk around if I was trying to travel light and this fits my needs perfectly. I don't miss the gap between 55-70 in the least bit personally.

Exactly what he said!bw!




  
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Jan 19, 2012 03:17 |  #26

one more vote for 17-55.




  
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Jan 19, 2012 06:51 |  #27

S.Horton wrote in post #13729436 (external link)
Nice work which says more about your skill and eye than the lens you happened to use.

Valid point nonetheless.

Great point. Those are wonderful photos, but I don't think it is fair to simply say "Here is what the 17-55 will deliver". I'm highly doubtful that I'd get close to them with any lens, as skill behind the camera and the computer surely matters a lot.


  
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Jan 19, 2012 07:44 |  #28

RobDickinson wrote in post #13727837 (external link)
This. I have a 7D.

24-70f2.8l has better bokeh and build, weighs a ton, no IS and IMO the wrong focal range.

25-105l is f4 and 'slow' for a crop, works great as a walkround on a FF body tho.

17-55 is all round orsome (tho does suck in some dust and can zoom creep). The Sigma 17-50f2.8OS is almost as good for a fair bit less money tho.

EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS :

Rob, I have a feeling you could make any lens and camera combo sing. Some pretty good skills you have there!!


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Jan 19, 2012 08:21 |  #29

I would take a look at the sigma 17-50 OS


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Feb 02, 2012 16:35 as a reply to  @ Attomsk's post |  #30

Just how bad are the dust problems with the 17-55?




  
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