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5dii vs T2i for HS Football

 
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Jan 20, 2012 12:57 |  #1

Going to take some daylight football shots, would love to use the 5Dii as it'll give me higher IQ, but I think the crop factor will give me more reach with the T2i.

Any advice? Used to shooting baseball, where I can be relatively close, so kinda nervous about this one (don't worry not a paid shoot, just for fun).


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Jan 20, 2012 13:05 |  #2

In daylight the crop would be nice. A night game, you'd want the 5DII for the low light capability.


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Jan 20, 2012 13:14 |  #3

Numenorean wrote in post #13738442 (external link)
A night game, you'd want the 5DII for the low light capability.

Interesting. I've found exactly opposite.

My 5D2 does beautifully with daylight football and baseball, but as soon as the light starts to fade, the AF struggles to acquire focus and track, even with center point.

I'll use the 5D2 until I need to go above ISO 1600 to maintain sufficient shutter speeds. Then I put it away and stick to the 1D Mk III, 7D, or T1i... all do better with low light AF than the 5D2.


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Jan 20, 2012 13:19 |  #4

Conflicting information will not help me! I will simply have to have two cameras around my neck :D

In all seriousness, thanks for the tips, funny how things that come naturally to some of us (you) are so helpful to say outloud for others (me) to learn


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Jan 20, 2012 13:21 |  #5

For HS football? I am assuming the light would just be terrible though - maybe they have good lighting and it's not as much of an issue. If you need 3200 ISO to get shutter speeds where you want I'm not sure what the T2i would look like there. Would you shoot 6400 with a T2i?


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Jan 20, 2012 13:39 as a reply to  @ Numenorean's post |  #6

Yes, for HS football. For non-daylight HS football, I use speedlites as required by the company I shoot for.

For youth league sports with fading light, as described above, I'll use the 5D2 until ISO 1600. Even with the speedlites and even with a low-light 1.8L or 2.8L lens, AI Servo on the 5D2 does not sufficiently acquire or maintain AF. So even with or without speedlites, the 5D2 is my 4th choice for low-light sports.

Obtaining and maintaining focus is more important to me than comparing RAW ISO noise at 3200.

If keeper rate is not important, sure you can continue using the 5D2 and you can still get a few usable shots. But at 3200 or even 6400, the T2i will give you more keepers and very printable shots, especially with a little NR in LR3.


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Jan 20, 2012 15:21 |  #7

CanonGrl01 wrote in post #13738402 (external link)
Going to take some daylight football shots, would love to use the 5Dii as it'll give me higher IQ, but I think the crop factor will give me more reach with the T2i.

Actual daylight football images from a T2i.

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IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Focal Length: 330.0mm
Aperture: f/5.6
Exposure Time: 0.0005 s (1/2000)
ISO equiv: 250
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Focal Length: 240.0mm
Aperture: f/5.0
Exposure Time: 0.0008 s (1/1250)
ISO equiv: 200
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Focal Length: 165.0mm
Aperture: f/5.0
Exposure Time: 0.0020 s (1/500)
ISO equiv: 2500
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

Never the slightest bit of trouble from the T2i when used to photograph football.



  
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Jan 20, 2012 15:33 |  #8

What lens(es)? I only have what's in my sit. I figured I'd use the 85 on the 5Dii since it's the longest I have, unless I wanted to go buy the 70-200, but I've been sticking to primes so if I'm going to spend I think I'd prefer to get the 135.


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Jan 21, 2012 10:37 |  #9

So it turns out it was indoor basketball (my bad, the kid plays every sport invented apparently). I learned two things A. I know nothing about sports photography B. I know nothing about post processing (I feel like these are way oversaturated, but I liked the look of them and it was 9 at night so I said eh whatevs)

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Jan 21, 2012 10:44 |  #10

With your lens line up you almost have to go to the crop body..


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Jan 21, 2012 10:51 |  #11

Yeah, cuz I had to crop galore.

OR

I can pick up the 135l :)


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Jan 21, 2012 11:24 |  #12

I think DC Fan answered your question. The T2i is more than capable apparently!

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