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Dec 12, 2013 05:14 |  #751

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Dec 12, 2013 05:57 |  #752

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Not bad. I'm guessing this was done with the new version 5?


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Dec 12, 2013 13:43 |  #753

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Not bad. I'm guessing this was done with the new version 5?

Very nice. There's a new version?


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Dec 12, 2013 15:14 as a reply to  @ roseyposey's post |  #754

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Dec 13, 2013 15:35 |  #755

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Not bad. I'm guessing this was done with the new version 5?

Cheers. No, still using version 3.


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Dec 14, 2013 05:31 |  #756

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Cheers. No, still using version 3.

Thanks for the reply. Interesting. None of the inherent halos or over-saturated color ranges. Either you apparently learned how to tame it or you fixed it post photomatix. Nice job.


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Dec 14, 2013 09:28 |  #757

Photomatix is not inherently halo-producing, but it certainly will produce halos if abused. I think most folks who produce "HDR" that is haloed and over saturated use Photomatix with reckless abandon and either like the look or don't know how to tone it down - the sliders in PM are interrelated, so getting to know how they all affect each other goes a long way to producing natural compression.

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Dec 15, 2013 08:14 |  #758

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Photomatix is not inherently halo-producing, but it certainly will produce halos if abused. I think most folks who produce "HDR" that is haloed and over saturated use Photomatix with reckless abandon and either like the look or don't know how to tone it down - the sliders in PM are interrelated, so getting to know how they all affect each other goes a long way to producing natural compression.

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Incorrect.

I have seen many examples where the goal was to produce a realistic image (staying away from the overly-tonemapped look) that have had problems with photomatix halos - especially is high contrast areas such as where a dark tree touches a bright sky.

Edit: This is from Photomatix's own FAQ (hdrsoft.com) where they provide a solution to halos being produced even when trying to achieve natural looking images:

"Increasing the value of the Smooth Highlights setting (under the "More Options" section) is useful for reducing halos around objects placed against bright backgrounds. The other adjustments that may help are lowering the Strength and/or increasing the value of the Lighting Adjustments setting.

An easier way to avoid halo artifacts is to either use the Tone Compressor method for tone mapping your image, or to process your bracketed photos with Exposure Fusion using the 'Fusion/Natural' method. The latter is particularly recommended if you are looking for natural-looking results."


There would be no need to provide solutions for problems that did not exist.

but I will say that the new version 5, at least on the limited number of images I have processed so far, seems to have corrected (or at least greatly improved) on the problem.


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Dec 15, 2013 11:12 |  #759

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but I will say that the new version 5, at least on the limited number of images I have processed so far, seems to have corrected (or at least greatly improved) on the problem.

Is that the paid full version?


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Dec 15, 2013 16:30 as a reply to  @ roseyposey's post |  #760

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How could I improve the processing in this gents?

I'm sure a tripod would help to remove ghosting - is that correct?

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Dec 15, 2013 17:42 |  #761

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Is that the paid full version?

Not quite sure what you mean. AFAIK, the trial is fully functional, just time-limited.

Can't remember what I previously wrote, but yes - v5 is greatly improved.

Some of their old demons such as the way it used to oversaturate certain color groups, the halos, adding noise to shadow areas, and over-sharpening have been improved.

Long story short: I quit using photomatix for years, but I ran across a 5-exposure project the other day that Nik just could not handle, no matter what was tweaked. However, photomatix did. So Nik is still my preferred program, but Photomatix has improved it's favor with me and has now earned a place on the "oh what the hell, give it a try in photomatix to see what it looks like" list.


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Dec 15, 2013 18:15 |  #762

Picture North Carolina wrote in post #16528700 (external link)
Incorrect.

I have seen many examples where the goal was to produce a realistic image (staying away from the overly-tonemapped look) that have had problems with photomatix halos - especially is high contrast areas such as where a dark tree touches a bright sky.

Edit: This is from Photomatix's own FAQ (hdrsoft.com) where they provide a solution to halos being produced even when trying to achieve natural looking images:

"Increasing the value of the Smooth Highlights setting (under the "More Options" section) is useful for reducing halos around objects placed against bright backgrounds. The other adjustments that may help are lowering the Strength and/or increasing the value of the Lighting Adjustments setting.

An easier way to avoid halo artifacts is to either use the Tone Compressor method for tone mapping your image, or to process your bracketed photos with Exposure Fusion using the 'Fusion/Natural' method. The latter is particularly recommended if you are looking for natural-looking results."


There would be no need to provide solutions for problems that did not exist.

but I will say that the new version 5, at least on the limited number of images I have processed so far, seems to have corrected (or at least greatly improved) on the problem.

Notice the recommendation to use the "Natural" setting to get rid of halos. Sounds self explanatory to me.


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Dec 15, 2013 21:27 |  #763

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Not quite sure what you mean. AFAIK, the trial is fully functional, just time-limited.

The trial version of v5 puts a logo on the image:

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But it does seem to produce a nicer image. This was just a very quick play.

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Dec 15, 2013 22:52 |  #764

Try this one, it's the one most people do not use - mostly because it is the first slider:

Picture North Carolina wrote in post #16528700 (external link)
Incorrect.

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Edit: This is from Photomatix's own FAQ (hdrsoft.com) where they provide a solution to halos being produced even when trying to achieve natural looking images:

"...lowering the Strength

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Dec 16, 2013 10:10 |  #765

From the HDRSoft website:

"The upgrade to Photomatix Pro 5 is free of charge for customers who purchased a license of Photomatix Pro version 4 from the HDRsoft.com website.

If you bought a license before Photomatix Pro 4.0 was released, i.e. before October 2010, you can upgrade to Photomatix Pro 5 for US$29.

If you bought on Amazon the Photomatix Pro 4 software box sold by HDRsoft or Amazon, the upgrade to version 5 is free, and you do not need a new license key (Note: this does not apply to Photomatix Pro boxes sold by other resellers than HDRsoft or Amazon)."


Pretty cool, I'm going to try the free upgrade tonight.

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