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Jan 21, 2012 12:39 |  #1

I have searched the forum and cannot find an answer to my problem. For the last two (2) days, I have gotten this message on my camera when I tried to shoot:

Error 20

Shooting is not possible. Turn the power switch to <OFF> and

<ON> again or re-install the battery.





I have replace the battery; replaced the CF card; changed the lens (I had my 200mm, and went to my 300mm and 400mm); and tried to clean the contacts. The camera body is approximately two (2) years old (out of warranty). Does anyone KNOW what else can be done to fix it, or should I contact Canon Support? Thanks in advance for your help.


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Jan 21, 2012 13:22 |  #2

Have you replaced the battery with a new one, or just take it out and back in? If with a new one, is it a Canon battery or other brand?
Could be a bad battery...


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Jan 21, 2012 13:45 as a reply to  @ vince_ross's post |  #3

Both batteries (battery grip has 2) were replaced w/ different Canon batteries that were recently charged. Only use Canon. IMO, you get what you pay for. Thanks for asking.


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Jan 21, 2012 13:59 |  #4

tried taking the grip off?

how about the small internal battery




  
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Jan 21, 2012 14:06 |  #5

I had this same issue pop up on me a few months ago, but it has gone away since then after cleaning off the contacts. It always happened when I switched into video mode, and it seemed like the shutter would lock up. I searched all over the net and some people suggested sending it in to Canon to have it repaired.

Seeing all the equipment in your sig, I'll assume you're a CPS member. Try giving them a call for suggestions (and please report back if you do). I don't think they'll diagnose it over the phone, though.


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Jan 21, 2012 15:36 |  #6

ERR 20 is supposed to indicate a mechanical fault, particularly the mirror, it's operating mechanisms and motor(s)... (ERR 30 is usually shutter related). But it also might be something as simple as too low power, power interruptions, or even garbled firmware "instructions". The mirror and shutter cycling of a camera is very "clock like", high precision mechanisms going through a carefully timed sequence of events. It's a pretty reliable mechanism, but things do wear or just "go off the tracks" and foul up.

Yes, if you have a battery grip on the camera, check that it's tight. It also might be a good idea to remove it and clean the contacts, both on the grip and up inside the camera.

It would be a good idea to also clean the contacts between battery and grip (or between battery & camera, if not using a grip).

Probably wouldn't hurt to also clean the lens to camera contacts.

In all cases, I recommend using a clean cloth rag moistened with few drops of isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol, and wiping the contacts with that. Just be careful to keep off the optics and mirror. And don't get things too wet.... You just need to moisten the cloth a little.

To get to some of the contacts and wipe them, you will probably need a tool to wrap the cleaning cloth over. Those wooden coffee stir sticks that Starbucks provides its customers are pretty good, but anything similar made of wood or plastic might do. It's just a matter of getting some extra reach to gently wipe the contacts up inside the camera and/or down inside the battery grip.

Leave things apart to air dry for ten, fifteen minutes or so. Isopropyl alcohol evaporates pretty quickly (check to see if the cloth you used has dried out... If it has, then most likely the contacts you cleaned with it are dry too).

Another thing... Inspect carefully the leading (bottom with the camera upright) edge of the mirror... If you see any gooey black residue that might indicate the foam light seals are going bad. Sometimes they get sticky and that can lead to the mirror hanging up, messing up the timing of the mirror/shutter cycle. Usually the foam light seals are good for 4 or 5 years, but they can go bad faster if the camera is often used in hot environments, for example. The foam seals are glued in place and, when going bad, that glue can transfer to the edges of the mirror... That's what you are looking for. If you see any, a local camera repair technician probably can help you. Light seal replacements aren't a big deal (5DII only uses them along one side of the mirror), but not something I'd recommend an inexperienced person tackle because the mirror is right below and the focus screen just above, both pretty easily damaged.

Also you might want to do a "reset" or "reboot". To do that quickly, try the following:

1. Turn camera off.
2. Remove both the main (rechargeable) battery(ies) and the small silver memory battery. You'll need a precision cross-point screwdriver to get to memory battery. In the 5DII it's on the lefthand side, partially covered by the rubber socket covers, near the bottom. Remove the screw, then slide out the battery.
3. With all the batteries out, turn the camera back on.
4. Press the shutter release button once. The camera won't fire, but this will drain all the remaining power in the camera.
5. Turn off the camera.
6. Reinstall the batteries.
7. Turn on camera, go into the menu. Check the time/date. It should need to be reset, if you got a proper "reboot" of the camera.
8. If not, repeat the process steps 1 through 7. If you wish, instead of turning the camera on and pressing the shutter release, you can just turn it on and let it sit for an hour or more. That also should fully drain any remaining power. Then repeat steps 5 through 7.
9. If you can't get the camera to "reboot" properly, try leaving the batteries out an even longer time, such as overnight. If you still can't get it to "reboot", you may have to send it to Canon.

The camera should be able to shoot without the memory battery, but this might be a good time while you have it out to replace that battery. They normally should be good for 4 or 5 years, but who knows? If you wish, you can take the memory battery some place like Radio Shack and have them test it... But it's only a few dollars for a replacement and they're pretty widely available, so might be easier to just go ahead and replace it. Be sure to wipe off finger oils before reinstalling it, and to install it in the correct orientation (it should only fit one way).

If cleaning the contacts and doing a reboot don't stop the camera from throwing off ERR 20, the next thing you can try is reinstalling or updating the firmware. Sometimes it seems as if the firmware gets muddled and starts to cause problems. You can get instructions on updating/reinstalling the firmware and download a fresh copy from the Canon website.

All the above are a bit long shots... might help, might not. But all are pretty simple to try, cost little or nothing, and might work. I always figure they're worth a try, before going to the trouble of sending the camera in to Canon service.


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Jan 21, 2012 17:12 |  #7

Thank you, Alan. Very helpful!


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Jan 21, 2012 19:16 as a reply to  @ kamek's post |  #8

Alan. I removed the grip and inserted just one battery, and cleaned the contacts. No luck. I will try the rest that you suggested tomorrow, and let you know. Thank you very much.


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Jan 22, 2012 12:05 as a reply to  @ NASS Photo's post |  #9

Alan. Followed your advice on the reset/reboot. Regrogrammed my individual preferences (time/date/etc). Twenty (20) minutes later, I am back in business. Thank you very much. Nick.


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