Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Sports 
Thread started 22 Jan 2012 (Sunday) 23:18
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Hockey with my 5D MkII

 
philmony
Senior Member
Avatar
254 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 34
Joined Dec 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
     
Jan 22, 2012 23:18 |  #1

Senior Women's Hockey - Delta Jets vs BC Thunder ... 0 0 all the way until 16 seconds left and our # 16 scored ... :) ... we'll take it!

All settings ISO1600, f2.8, 1/500, with 70-200L (non-IS) RAW

no pp - straight from camera (wow I love the 5D MkII over my old 40D's)

#1

IMAGE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20710637/Albums/public/IMG_0374.JPG

#2

IMAGE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20710637/Albums/public/IMG_0390.JPG

#3

IMAGE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20710637/Albums/public/IMG_0397.JPG

#4

IMAGE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20710637/Albums/public/IMG_0401.JPG

#5

IMAGE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20710637/Albums/public/IMG_0425.JPG

#6

IMAGE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20710637/Albums/public/IMG_0444.JPG


Thanks for looking ... Phil

Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...
it's about learning how to dance in the rain!
(anon)
|| Canon 5D MKII | 24-70 F2.8L | 70-200 f2.8L | 100 f2.8L IS Macro | 50 1.8 | 2 x 580 EX II Speedlites | Some Pocket Wizards| and various other homemade stuff |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
chumlee
Goldmember
Avatar
1,989 posts
Joined Sep 2010
Location: New Jersey
     
Jan 22, 2012 23:19 |  #2

Not seeing anything :(


Leica M3 | Contax G2 |
No, I'm not the guy from Pawn Stars...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
joemrk3
Member
169 posts
Joined Jun 2010
     
Jan 23, 2012 05:51 |  #3

They look a bit dark, you might want to bump up the exposure.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Lacks_focus
Goldmember
Avatar
1,025 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Oct 2006
Location: Coventry, CT
     
Jan 23, 2012 07:28 |  #4

About 2 stops brighter. Keep everything else the same and bump the ISO to 6400.


1D MKIII | FujiFilm X10 | 24-70 f/2.8 | 70-200 f/2.8 | 135 f/2 | 85 f/1.8 | 580EX |
lacks-focus.smugmug.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
philmony
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
254 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 34
Joined Dec 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
     
Jan 23, 2012 11:06 |  #5

OK - just bumped up the brightness and contrast a bit ... should be a bit better - but next time I try with higher ISO (the 40D conditioned me to nothing above 800 ISO!!) ... thanks for the comments everyone.


Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...
it's about learning how to dance in the rain!
(anon)
|| Canon 5D MKII | 24-70 F2.8L | 70-200 f2.8L | 100 f2.8L IS Macro | 50 1.8 | 2 x 580 EX II Speedlites | Some Pocket Wizards| and various other homemade stuff |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
joonrhee
Goldmember
Avatar
3,897 posts
Likes: 639
Joined Oct 2009
Location: Southern California
     
Jan 23, 2012 12:23 |  #6

Last one looks the best, as the other ones look blown out..


a7RII • a7C • V12 • L21 • S24GM • S85
Full Gear List & Feedback
SmugMug (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
elrey2375
Thinks it's irresponsible
Avatar
4,992 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 279
Joined Nov 2011
     
Jan 23, 2012 12:28 |  #7

joonrhee wrote in post #13753794 (external link)
Last one looks the best, as the other ones look blown out..

Ditto. The ice is blown way out. Might want to mess around with the curves, see if you can't get that down a bit.


http://emjfotografi.co​m/ (external link)
http://500px.com/EMJFo​tografi (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Gryphes
Senior Member
Avatar
335 posts
Joined Nov 2011
Location: The Netherlands
     
Jan 23, 2012 12:31 |  #8

Yeah agreed the last one is the best!


flickr (external link)
Canon EOS 5D Mark II | 100L | 16-35L | Samyang 35mm f/1.4 | Gitzo 3542LS | Arca-Swiss Z1 DP | RRS plates | 430EXII | Lee Filters

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cstewart
Goldmember
Avatar
1,866 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 16
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Victoria, B.C. Canada
     
Jan 23, 2012 12:50 |  #9

Pretty much any hockey I shoot needs PP to boost exposure, sharpen, crop, etc. If you use Lightroom, the Gradient filter is useful to pull up slightly from bottom and darken blown out ice as needed. All RAW images need sharpening to some degree too. Many of your images (except last) appear soft and this could be why, although they may just be OOF....how were you shooting? Center point focus, AI Servo?. My sharpening slider in Lightroom is usually at 80 or so and it makes a big difference. Straighten horizons too (eg last pic skating downhill). Last pic is also bang on focus, just needs a PP boost of exposure.


Please Check Out My Work at:
Independent Sports News (external link) -- Sports Shooter (external link) --Web Site (external link) -- Facebook (external link) -- iStockphoto.com (external link)--Twitter (external link)
Gear: 1DX; 1D4; 70D gripped; 40D gripped; ; EFS10-22; EFS 17-55; EF 16-35; EF 135; EF 70-200 II; EF 300; EF 1.4X II Extender, 580 EX II Flash

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Lacks_focus
Goldmember
Avatar
1,025 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Oct 2006
Location: Coventry, CT
     
Jan 23, 2012 19:22 as a reply to  @ cstewart's post |  #10

Bumping them up that much after the fact is really a no go. Some, yes, sure if needed, but not that much. Getting it right in the camera is really best. Of course, that is not always an option, but it should be a priority. I shoot way too many shots per game to do anything but batch / bulk processing. Very few get any attention beyond crop and straighten.

Try this. Works well for most situations. Selected AV mode along with the ISO and aperture you intend to shoot the game with. For me default is ISO6400 and f/2.8. Shoot an out of focus, preferable skated on, part of the ice with no lines or anything, just ice. Look at the shutter speed AV gave you. You’re likely to see 1/2000 or more. Don’t get excited, you’re not going to use that!!! Shift to manual mode and bump it two full stops. So, 1/2000 now becomes 1/500. Lock it down and shoot the game. IGNORE YOUR METER... It is lying to you. The setting you locked down will give you white ice and very well exposed players. There is always some variation, per rink and your personal taste. Try it a few times this way and decide how to adjust based on the results.

I take as many as 600 to 800 images for 3 full periods of hockey. Simple does it. A full game takes me two hours max to get them online on a bad day.

My work flow for the 1D3 is this:

1, Shoot RAW with a picture style that will give you the result you’re after. I have good luck with AWB, but use whatever reduces the need for additional post processing in your situation. I tend to avoid CWB because if the lights are cycling, you will likely have more of a problem.

2. I dump them into folders by period (just to break up the work) and open using DPP (hey, it's free and I'm cheap). I then use the DPP "quick-check" function to mark the shots I want, fast and easy.

3. Select the checked marked images and open with the “trim and angle” tool. Quickly crop and straighten. Again, doing your part while taking the shots will greatly reduce the work needed here. There is always some though.

4. Select “batch process” to make them .JPGs. I dump them in to an “edit” folder.

5. Open PS and batch that edit folder with a PS action / NR routine (FlexNR), into a “post” folder.

6. Post them. Done.

Here is a shot or two from Friday's game that I shot and processed exactly as above. Ready for SI, err, no... But I have a life too and this is starting to get too much like work!

IMAGE: http://lacks-focus.smugmug.com/BCLHockey2011-2012Season/BCL-vs-EO-Smith/i-xZKZ9PF/0/L/DLEV4691-L.jpg

IMAGE: http://lacks-focus.smugmug.com/BCLHockey2011-2012Season/BCL-vs-EO-Smith/i-p776GRC/0/L/DLEV5047-L.jpg

1D MKIII | FujiFilm X10 | 24-70 f/2.8 | 70-200 f/2.8 | 135 f/2 | 85 f/1.8 | 580EX |
lacks-focus.smugmug.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
philmony
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
254 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 34
Joined Dec 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
     
Jan 23, 2012 19:53 |  #11

Lacks_focus wrote in post #13756563 (external link)
Bumping them up that much after the fact is really a no go. Some, yes, sure if needed, but not that much. Getting it right in the camera is really best. Of course, that is not always an option, but it should be a priority. I shoot way too many shots per game to do anything but batch / bulk processing. Very few get any attention beyond crop and straighten.

Try this. Works well for most situations. Selected AV mode along with the ISO and aperture you intend to shoot the game with. For me default is ISO6400 and f/2.8. Shoot an out of focus, preferable skated on, part of the ice with no lines or anything, just ice. Look at the shutter speed AV gave you. You’re likely to see 1/2000 or more. Don’t get excited, you’re not going to use that!!! Shift to manual mode and bump it two full stops. So, 1/2000 now becomes 1/500. Lock it down and shoot the game. IGNORE YOUR METER... It is lying to you. The setting you locked down will give you white ice and very well exposed players. There is always some variation, per rink and your personal taste. Try it a few times this way and decide how to adjust based on the results.

I take as many as 600 to 800 images for 3 full periods of hockey. Simple does it. A full game takes me two hours max to get them online on a bad day.

My work flow for the 1D3 is this:

1, Shoot RAW with a picture style that will give you the result you’re after. I have good luck with AWB, but use whatever reduces the need for additional post processing in your situation. I tend to avoid CWB because if the lights are cycling, you will likely have more of a problem.

2. I dump them into folders by period (just to break up the work) and open using DPP (hey, it's free and I'm cheap). I then use the DPP "quick-check" function to mark the shots I want, fast and easy.

3. Select the checked marked images and open with the “trim and angle” tool. Quickly crop and straighten. Again, doing your part while taking the shots will greatly reduce the work needed here. There is always some though.

4. Select “batch process” to make them .JPGs. I dump them in to an “edit” folder.

5. Open PS and batch that edit folder with a PS action / NR routine (FlexNR), into a “post” folder.

6. Post them. Done.

excellent advice - thank you - ISO6400 was a 'no no' when shooting with my 40D - so I have gotten into some bad habits with pp (I guess) - anyway - I sort of rescued these posted ones - just with a bit of sharpening and adjustment - and they they are linked so they update on the posting ... I think these are 'acceptable' - I will be shooting again this week at a rink and I will def. take this advice and try it out - thank you!


Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...
it's about learning how to dance in the rain!
(anon)
|| Canon 5D MKII | 24-70 F2.8L | 70-200 f2.8L | 100 f2.8L IS Macro | 50 1.8 | 2 x 580 EX II Speedlites | Some Pocket Wizards| and various other homemade stuff |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
richimagesboston
Hatchling
5 posts
Joined Sep 2012
Location: Boston, Massachusetts
     
Dec 23, 2012 17:50 |  #12

I am shooting hockey with the 5D Mark II. Those who have had luck with shooting hockey with this camera, what metering mode do you think works best? Also which AF options do you like?

Rich




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ilovetheleafs
Raising uninteresting to new levels
908 posts
Gallery: 20 photos
Likes: 35
Joined Jul 2011
     
Dec 23, 2012 18:02 |  #13

#5 looks best to me. you captured the action at exactly the right moment. How do you find the 5D Mk2 for shooting sports? I know a lot of people complain about mediocre auto-focus.


Canon Rebel XS gripped, Canon 18 - 55mm, Sigma 18 - 200mm f3.5 - f6.3 DC OS HSM,Sigma 50mm f1.4 Olympus TG-810 Tough, LowePro Classified 160AW, Canon 430EX II Flash, Kata E-702

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,739 views & 0 likes for this thread, 10 members have posted to it.
Hockey with my 5D MkII
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Sports 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1365 guests, 136 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.