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Wedding photographer prices are WACK?

 
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Jan 26, 2012 15:23 |  #1

Check out this Seattle craigslist posting: http://seattle.craigsl​ist.org/kit/evs/280433​2414.html (external link)

WHY is finding an amazing wedding photographer so difficult? :/

I am a Bride who is getting married this summer and have yet to find a decently priced, exceptional, amazingly talented, fun photographer.

WHY because the word "WEDDING" is involved photographers think they can change you $ 3,000.00 for wedding photos? Oh, because no bride is going to go without so they are going to pay it, because they HAVE to. They are ripping people off for all they have! Why when you want to get married it costs you AT LEAST 15 grand after all is said-and-done? Its such CRAP!! I love all you $ 3,000.00 photographers out there but i think your prices are WACK. All your doing is hanging out at a wedding taking tons of photos and editing them.. and thats owrth 3 GRAND!!! You're making so much money its crazy. I just wish people would be more realistic. I mean the "average" persons salary for 1 freaking month is somewhere around 3 grand. (Thats making 19$ an hour) So you're going to take someones WHOLE MONTH paycheck for one flippen day of photos? Just because you CAN!!?????? So that maybe they will not be able to feed themselves or pay any other bills they have, right? It makes me SICK!

I know im speaking for more than just myself right now. Alot of brides out there think the same thing. & I bet all you fancy photographers wont even read this. oh-well.
Maybe there are cheaper photographers that will read this and LOVE to take my photos :)

And a most excellent response:
http://blog.nikkimayda​yphotography.com …ng-photographer-response/ (external link)

Dear Bride,

I am a wedding photographer in the Erie, PA area. Wedding season only
last about 4 months here, so I photograph an average of 20 weddings
per year for an average of $2500 / wedding. (which totals about
$50,000 / year).

- That being said, I am a small business owner, so I pay all of my
taxes, totaling about $15,000 / year which leaves me with a gross
income of around $35,000

- Of that $35,000 I pay $600/month in rent for my small house and
garage which I converted into my studio (which is where I would be
editing your wedding images at) $35,000 – $7,200 = 27,800.
- Then I have my car, which I would use to get me to and from your
wedding, which I pay $400/month for the lease, Plus $200/month in car
insurance = $7,200 = $20,600.
- To get to your (and my other brides) wedding consultation,
second wedding pre-consultation, the wedding itself, and to and from
the printers I need gas money = $840/year = $19,760
- I also have insurance in case you sue me, or if any of your drunk
guests would happen to break any of my equipment = $500 / year. =
$19,260
- You also probably found me through my website, which I pay $30/month
for hosting, and another $30/ month so that you can view your photos
online and share the images with your friends and family = $720 =
$18,540
- Or perhaps you found me through my advertisements in the newspaper
or local bridal magazines, OR a bridal show that you attended that I
paid to have a booth at $18,540 – $1,000 = $17,540
- I also pay for my own Health insurance in case I were to get hurt at
your wedding = $250/month = $14,540
- and I pay for a second shooter for your wedding, so that you can
have more images and different angles, as to make sure you get the best
images possible at your wedding = $200/wedding = $10,540
- I also need to have a new pair of shoes every season because my
shoes get worn out and dirty from season to season = $100/year =
$10,440
- I need high speed internet so I can upload all of your images
online, my home phone for my business and my cell phone so I can
communicate with you = $2,500 / year = $7,940
- Oh yes, and I also pay a lawyer to make sure my contracts are iron
clad and an accountant to make sure that I am paying all of the taxes
I need… = $500/year = $7,440
- Sometimes I attend workshops and seminars to teach me how to
better my business, and make my client happier (that would be you), as
well as keep up on the trends and learn new techniques so that I can
make sure you have the best quality images available.

That would technically leave me with about $7,000 / year to feed
myself, buy groceries, pay for my heat and electricity, cloth myself
etc…. BUT, usually I end up re-investing whatever I have left on
upgrades and new equipment:

During your wedding, I bring my professional equipment that I use so
that I can make sure you have the highest quality images.

- I have 2 Canon 5D Mark II cameras (because you always need a backup
in case of a camera malfunction which would ruin your big days
photographs) which cost $2500 / camera = $5000
-I also have quality lenses which can capture your special moments in
low light situations:
Canon 24-70 f2.8 lens = $1,200
Canon 70-200 f2.8 lens = $1,300
Canon 50mm f1.4 lens = $500
Canon 100mm f2.8 macro = $600
Canon 10-22mm f3.5 wide angle = $800
- and I have speed lights to catch the fun moments at your reception:
- 2 Canon 580EX II = $1,200
- Also multiple battery back ups and memory cards, lens filters, light
stands, umbrellas, light boxes, external battery packs and a bag to
carry everything in. = $1,500
- Because this is equipment, sometimes I need to have it serviced or
cleaned to make sure it is all working properly = $200

After spending 8-10 hours at your wedding, I then come home to my home
office and spend about 20-25 hours editing your images, creating your
album, blogging about your wedding, posting pictures on facebook,
ordering you prints and burning your DVD’s

- I edit your photographs using a 27inch imac computer = $2500
- I edit your photographs on Adobe Lightroom = $200 and Adobe CS5 =
$400 (for the upgrade) and $900 for the new program.
- and I print your DVD’s on a printer which = $300
- Using ink = $200/year
- and I buy the DVD’s and jewel cases your getting printed =$300 / year
-I archive all of your photographs on 2 2TB external hard drives = $500
- And I also back up all of my photographs online so if there was ever
a fire in my office, you would never lose your photographs = $400/year
- I also have office expenses as far as buying paper, staples,
envelopes, packaging, filing cabinets and files, etc. etc. etc.
- I also spend time and money ordering your prints and albums, paying
for shipping, going to the post office etc.

All of that being said, I’m usually in the hole at the end of the
year, and take on many family portraits, senior portraits and corporate
jobs in order to make ends meet.

Photography is my passion and my livlihood, and it is also EXPENSIVE.
Yes, it seems like a lot of money for one day, but one day isn’t all
we spend on your photographs or on our business. You will spend
thousands of dollars on a wedding dress or flowers or a venue or on
catering which you are going to have for only ONE DAY, but your
photographs will be the only thing you have to remember that ONE DAY
for the rest of your lives.

I’m extremely insulted by your craigslist post and hope this sheds a
little light on why we charge $3000 for one day of your memories which
are going to last you forever.

-Nikki Wagner, Photographer.

Love it and just thought I'd share...


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Jan 26, 2012 15:28 |  #2

that response is pure money! no pun intended of course


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Jan 26, 2012 15:36 |  #3

I thought they were both out on the extreme edge. I guess her wacky ad deserves such a response though, but it only adds more fuel to the fire.




  
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Jan 26, 2012 15:44 |  #4

All your doing is hanging out at a wedding taking tons of photos and editing them.. and thats owrth 3 GRAND!!!

LMAO. Thinking this bride will go the disposable camera route.


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Jan 26, 2012 15:46 as a reply to  @ RandyMN's post |  #5

As I said in the thread about why there are few over-40 wedding photographers:

A lot of us realize that wedding photography is a dog-eat-dog business and go on to other things. I made more money shooting airshows and other aviation events than I ever did shooting weddings. And there was the added bonus that the airplanes didn't complain or talk back and didn't have bitchy mothers...


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Jan 26, 2012 16:31 |  #6

thanks for sharing. i can understand the bride if she never really thought about what actually goes into photography business. and a nice response.


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Jan 26, 2012 17:05 |  #7

Those kinds of exchanges are actually quite common on CL.


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Jan 26, 2012 18:41 |  #8

I wonder what kind of car this photographer is driving that she's paying a $400/month LEASE and $200 insurance in PA! Other then that, her numbers look right-ish.

People always amaze me when they think we just show up, eat a ton of food, then go home and spend a few hours editing. I WISH that was my job. It sounds like an awesome job.


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Jan 26, 2012 23:25 |  #9

$7000 a year net?
I wouldn't even bother, passion or otherwise.




  
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Jan 27, 2012 00:37 |  #10

Great response, and I've seen some other blog posts that are very similar. She says she has two 5D2's and a 10-22 though. I hope the bride doesn't call her out on that :lol:


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Jan 27, 2012 07:52 |  #11

nicksan wrote in post #13776052 (external link)
$7000 a year net?
I wouldn't even bother, passion or otherwise.

I agree.. this post makes sense but nobody can survive on that income, but it atleast got the point across




  
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Jan 27, 2012 08:02 |  #12

I think we paid $350 for our wedding photos. Not sure I've ever seen them. Can't tell them apart from the P&S pictures.


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Jan 27, 2012 08:11 as a reply to  @ mckinleypics's post |  #13

Prices are inflated, and although it does shine some light on the craigslist poster I feel that the "talented" photographers make much more than that.


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Jan 27, 2012 09:48 |  #14

Another response which I actually like better-
http://www.kristenboot​hblog.net …raphers-are-so-expensive/ (external link)

Though I don't think any of these rebuttals are really "helping" anyone. People who really don't prioritize photography, won't value it. Period.


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Jan 27, 2012 10:51 |  #15

bluefire7 wrote in post #13777861 (external link)
People who really don't prioritize photography, won't value it. Period.

And that's the end of it. Just stop dealing with people who don't value photography. Problem solved. Yes, there's something to be said about educating future brides about why wedding photography can be very expensive, but honestly, are they the types of people you want to be dealing with anyways? Not me...




  
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