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Jan 26, 2012 18:50 |  #1

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I took this photo and want to add spray coming out of the cologne bottle. I've searched the internet and can't find anything useful. I know it's silly. I worked on it for a couple of hours and just can't seem to get anything worthwhile. I'm using CS5. Can anyone help?


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Jan 26, 2012 19:02 |  #2

That's going to be kind of tough.. Maybe look for mist/cloud brushes and layer it on, trying different layers modes..

If it was me, I'd just re-shoot it as a composite.. one shot like that, another shot with the bottle actually spraying the mist.. you'd need to light the mist though, I'd probably snoot from either the same axis as the camera, or straight above where the mist would be.. Then just composite the two images.


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Jan 26, 2012 19:21 |  #3

Take a photo of the mist, probably back lit, and layer it in.


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Jan 26, 2012 20:01 |  #4

I would put a setup together like I was shooting smoke: put the flash on the side and snoot it, then aim it at the spray. Press the sprayer and shoot while the mist is coming out. Use a black background to isolate the spray, then as Tim said, layer the mist into your final scene.


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Jan 26, 2012 20:03 as a reply to  @ katodog's post |  #5

Ok thanks all. let me ask this, if I shoot it on a black background, how would I layer it in?


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Jan 26, 2012 20:15 |  #6

I'd shoot with a black background because it'd make the flash highlight the mist better. To add it to your scene just invert the mist to a white background, layer it into your shot, then change the layer properties to "Multiply". It'll blend the mist in and all you'll have to do is fine-tune things to get it to look the way you want it to.


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Jan 26, 2012 20:16 |  #7

katodog wrote in post #13775154 (external link)
I'd shoot with a black background because it'd make the flash highlight the mist better. To add it to your scene just invert the mist to a white background, layer it into your shot, then change the layer properties to "Multiply". It'll blend the mist in and all you'll have to do is fine-tune things to get it to look the way you want it to.

Great, thanks for that explanation, I truly appreciate it. I'll give it a try this weekend!


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Jan 26, 2012 20:26 |  #8

Give me about two more minutes, I'm working on a quick edit to show you what I'm talking about...


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Jan 26, 2012 20:38 |  #9

Okay, the basic idea is to use a black background, mainly because if you use a white background and flash the mist, you won't see it because the flash will blow-out the background and the mist will get lost in the white. Shooting on black and aiming the flash at the mist lets you light just the mist, and you can then invert the image in processing to a white background. Of course you'll have to play around with the processing to get the mist to look the way you want it, but here's a basic result...


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I shot a spray bottle against a black background, and had my wife spray it while I shot. Took two of the resulting images and worked with them, then merged them for a bigger puff of mist. Working with a white background I re-sized the mist to fit the image, copied it, then pasted it as a new layer onto the scene. Moved the mist into position, changed the layer properties to "Multiply", and that's that.


A quick edit, but it'll give you the general idea. All you really need is a shot of some mist, layer it, change to "Multiply" and you're done. You can try shooting the mist against a background other than black, but you'll wind up either figuring out it won't work and switching to black, or you'll be doing a crapload of processing to get the shot to merge with the scene without looking goofy.


As for shooting the mist on white, trust me, after shooting water drops on a white background I know that all you're gonna do is lose a lot of the body of the mist into the white background, you won't see it as well as if you shoot on black.

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Jan 26, 2012 20:39 |  #10

And now that I look at what I did, I guess it would have been better to make the mist look the same color as what's in the bottle.


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Jan 27, 2012 00:09 |  #11

Created with CS3 and a standard round soft brush :D

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Jan 27, 2012 12:05 as a reply to  @ -Douglas-'s post |  #12

You guys are all awesome!! Thanks for all the help!!


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Jan 27, 2012 12:32 |  #13

Awesome, i need to fool around with photoshop more!


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Jan 27, 2012 12:46 |  #14

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Jan 28, 2012 10:44 |  #15

Here's the mist brush I created if any body wants it!

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