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Jan 26, 2012 23:19 |  #1

Hey guys,i am planning on upgrading to a L series lens with part of my tax returns.. It will mainly be used for motorsports..i am leaning toward a 100-400 f.4 IS..And maybe a 580 ex flash also..my budget is right below 1,500 so i know its going to be tight on funds but thats that..any suggestion on a nice long range lens to upgrade for beginner/amatuer motorsports photographer?? All suggestions are appreciatted..thanks :)


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Jan 26, 2012 23:39 |  #2

Get a 70-200 f/4 IS and an TC if you want to extend your focal length. And practice your panning skills and remember IS won't help when objects are moving.


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Jan 26, 2012 23:41 |  #3

nascarsbeanr48 wrote in post #13776018 (external link)
Hey guys,i am planning on upgrading to a L series lens with part of my tax returns.. It will mainly be used for motorsports..i am leaning toward a 100-400 f.4 IS..And maybe a 580 ex flash also..my budget is right below 1,500 so i know its going to be tight on funds but thats that..any suggestion on a nice long range lens to upgrade for beginner/amatuer motorsports photographer?? All suggestions are appreciatted..thanks :)
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100-400 is good, but id get the 70-200mm f4L for the sake of the L


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Jan 26, 2012 23:50 |  #4

thestone11 wrote in post #13776143 (external link)
Get a 70-200 f/4 IS and an TC if you want to extend your focal length. And practice your panning skills and remember IS won't help when objects are moving.

Ok,so if i get a TC,the IS wont be useful if i understand correctly??


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Jan 26, 2012 23:53 |  #5

StructuredAmazing wrote in post #13776166 (external link)
100-400 is good, but id get the 70-200mm f4L for the sake of the L

They are both L's .........




  
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Jan 26, 2012 23:59 |  #6

monty28428 wrote in post #13776240 (external link)
They are both L's .........

Thats what i thought..i thought i was seeing something wrong for a second


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Jan 27, 2012 00:02 |  #7

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Ok,so if i get a TC,the IS wont be useful if i understand correctly??

TC and IS comments are unrelated. IS helps steady the picture if the camera is shaking. It doesn't help if the subject is moving (e.g., motorsports). The lenses do have IS modes and mode 2 is made for panning so you can try IS while panning moving subjects in one direction (e.g., horizontal). The TC adds reach, so multiply the mm by 1.4. There's a small IQ cost using a TC for reach but TC image quality will be better than cropping.

Edit: 100-400 is a nice lens for shooting things that move. The seemingly odd push-pull approach to zoom is actually very helpful for moving targets.




  
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Jan 27, 2012 00:29 |  #8

frankk wrote in post #13776279 (external link)
TC and IS comments are unrelated. IS helps steady the picture if the camera is shaking. It doesn't help if the subject is moving (e.g., motorsports). The lenses do have IS modes and mode 2 is made for panning so you can try IS while panning moving subjects in one direction (e.g., horizontal). The TC adds reach, so multiply the mm by 1.4. There's a small IQ cost using a TC for reach but TC image quality will be better than cropping.

Edit: 100-400 is a nice lens for shooting things that move. The seemingly odd push-pull approach to zoom is actually very helpful for moving targets.

that just isn't true. obviously IS isn't going to freeze a moving race car but it still stabilizes the camera and lens. camera shake and subject movement are two different issues.

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Jan 27, 2012 04:06 |  #9

+1 for the above. IS does help with moving objects in the way that it helps you track the subject without it wobbling all over the viewfinder. The 100-400 L is a fantastic lens, very versatile due to it's range, gives terrific IQ and isn't too heavy for a day shooting handheld. It might not be as sharp as the 70-200 f4 L but it has twice the reach and the AF is fast enough for motorsports and lots more.


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Jan 27, 2012 05:20 |  #10

IS is helpful in panning situations, which is of course very important to motorsports. Really, you are going to want to track the vehicles and select a shutter speed low enough to blur the wheels. Frozen wheels look strange and suck the life from motorsports shots. So IS is perfect for this application.

Personally I think the OP should get the 100-400L. The range is unbeatable for what the OP primarily wants to shoot. The IS will be very useful.


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Jan 27, 2012 07:43 |  #11

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that just isn't true. obviously IS isn't going to freeze a moving race car but it still stabilizes the camera and lens. camera shake and subject movement are two different issues.

ed rader

Yes Ed. I could have worded that better. IS is designed to combat camera movement (not subject movement). It helps keep the camera steady even if the subject is moving. IS mode 2 is designed for following moving subjects on a single axis.

Thanks for clarifying.




  
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Jan 27, 2012 20:24 as a reply to  @ frankk's post |  #12

Ok,by the looks of it,you guys are saying the 75-200..and if im reading this correctly, the TC should help on the long range and not slow the AF correct? Because thats what im leaning towards and hopefully getting some killer shots at Long Beach this year :)


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Jan 27, 2012 20:31 |  #13

Teleconverters always slow down AF. 1.4X is not as bad as 2X.


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Jan 27, 2012 22:00 |  #14

JeffreyG wrote in post #13780992 (external link)
Teleconverters always slow down AF. 1.4X is not as bad as 2X.

:( looks like imma have to get both lenses i guess ecause i dont want AF to get bothered by the TC..would i be smart to go with a 100-400 first to get the focal range covered? Hmm


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Jan 27, 2012 22:29 |  #15

thestone11 wrote in post #13776143 (external link)
...And practice your panning skills and remember IS won't help when objects are moving.

Mode 2 on the IS switch is intended specifically to be used while panning. It stabilizes the vertical axis but not the horizontal, so IS Mode 2 actually does help when objects are moving (assuming that you're panning).


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