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Jul 07, 2019 19:59 |  #3181

Yea, I use HDR or blending a lot, often times I could just boost the shadows for posting on the web, but if printing the extra shadow detail and less noise is nice.

This one definitely needed multiple exposures (or a grad or two.).

EDIT: actually I lie. I just checked, and although I bracketed 5 exposures for the HDR, the second exposure, with highlight and shadow recovery in Capture One, I could make a perfectly decent web image. I guess that brings into the question of when HDR is needed.

Also focus stacked this, again, not needed for a web image, but definitely for a print.


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Jul 09, 2019 09:02 |  #3182

ejenner wrote in post #18889770 (external link)
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This one definitely needed multiple exposures (or a grad or two.).

EDIT: actually I lie. I just checked, and although I bracketed 5 exposures for the HDR, the second exposure, with highlight and shadow recovery in Capture One, I could make a perfectly decent web image. I guess that brings into the question of when HDR is needed.
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This little journey of self discovery (LOL) is pretty much why HDR is not on the front page of every photo blog and youtube video. Sensors have gotten better, photographers have started to understand how to expose for raw data and not JPEG files and raw converters have become better at exploiting all of the raw data, through better tone mapping and highlight and shadow recovery.

Another thing that people are figuring out is that the use of HDR techniques for actual HDR is dictated by the scene, not the desire to use HDR software on everything.

Hopefully Trey Ratcliff will just fade into the annals of history and we can all get back to taking nice pictures of challenging scenes, and maybe, every once in a while, let our shadows plug up and our non-important highlights clip a little.

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Jul 09, 2019 15:21 |  #3183

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Jul 09, 2019 19:11 |  #3184

kirkt wrote in post #18890579 (external link)
This little journey of self discovery (LOL) is pretty much why HDR is not on the front page of every photo blog and youtube video. Sensors have gotten better, photographers have started to understand how to expose for raw data and not JPEG files and raw converters have become better at exploiting all of the raw data, through better tone mapping and highlight and shadow recovery.

Another thing that people are figuring out is that the use of HDR techniques for actual HDR is dictated by the scene, not the desire to use HDR software on everything.

Hopefully Trey Ratcliff will just fade into the annals of history and we can all get back to taking nice pictures of challenging scenes, and maybe, every once in a while, let our shadows plug up and our non-important highlights clip a little.

kirk

Withe the 7D I used HDR more because I had to. Now shooting with the 80D and the R there doesn't seem to be near the need for it.


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Jul 16, 2019 06:15 |  #3185

Just got the Franzis newsletter offering HDR Projects 2018 Pro for $20. That's a pretty deep discount. :)


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Jul 16, 2019 06:34 |  #3186

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Just got the Franzis newsletter offering HDR Projects 2018 Pro for $20. That's a pretty deep discount. :)

Try it before you buy it. I did just that 18 months ago and could noty come to terms with it - can't remember why!


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Jul 16, 2019 10:25 |  #3187

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Just got the Franzis newsletter offering HDR Projects 2018 Pro for $20. That's a pretty deep discount. :)

Hi, Bought there software (HDR projects 5 professional) was OK but that's it , next time I got a message from them was offering me to upgrade to the newer version $25.00 instead of RRP $89.00 no in between small upgrades. Russ.


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Jul 18, 2019 03:37 |  #3188

Well, is seemed like a good deal :)

The serial number would not work. Customer service seems to not answer direct questions and comes off as rude (language issue?). They stated my serial number is for a previous version??? Are they just clueless or intentionally selling old versions?

Time will tell.


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Jul 18, 2019 03:52 |  #3189

One shot run through sns-hdr I think, but might have been Photomatix, as sns-hdr are watermarking since my reinstall on new computer, but think I circumvented it somehow.

Anyway one shot - run through the software to try lift the shadows as I hadn't bracketed.

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Jul 18, 2019 06:10 |  #3190

Single shot - sns-hdr to try bring up shadows a little on the left.

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Jul 20, 2019 05:31 |  #3191

roseyposey wrote in post #18895703 (external link)
Single shot - sns-hdr to try bring up shadows a little on the left.

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I used to use this technique but I now use ACR to get similar results

BTW, I think you would have ended up with a better image if you had used a bracketed set.

I also note that blue sky only appears behind tree branches:

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This could be a processing glitch or an atmospheriuc fluke!

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Jul 21, 2019 01:52 |  #3192

Stiga wrote in post #18896779 (external link)
I used to use this technique but I now use ACR to get similar results

BTW, I think you would have ended up with a better image if you had used a bracketed set.

I also note that blue sky only appears behind tree branches:
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This could be a processing glitch or an atmospheriuc fluke!

Yes bracketed is better. A bit of poor technique all around, with shooting into the sun, not bracketing, as no tripod, and it was just a random, spontaneous shot. Despite iit's deficiencies I like it :-) - but that's the nature of a hobby/interest.


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Jul 21, 2019 04:17 |  #3193

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Yes bracketed is better. A bit of poor technique all around, with shooting into the sun, not bracketing, as no tripod, and it was just a random, spontaneous shot. Despite iit's deficiencies I like it :-) - but that's the nature of a hobby/interest.

The need for a tripod nowadays is a myth! I always bracket when shooting into the sun but have not used a tripod for over 15 years! Here is an example.


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As long as you have IS lenses, you should be okay. Try it.

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Jul 21, 2019 05:45 |  #3194

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As long as you have IS lenses, you should be okay. Try it.

I think it depends how good you are at hand holding, and what the slowest shutter might end being. I have done brackets in bright sunlight hand held, but doubt I would have managed it on the occasion we refer to, as it was about ten or fifteen minutes away from sunset, and the light goes fast at this time of the year.


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Jul 21, 2019 06:16 |  #3195

Great discussion here lately! Honestly I have only done a few true HDR shots. As Scott said above, these new sensors are so good, I do a quasi HDR on just about every shot. Bring up the shadows, bring down the highlights, a few other tweaks and to me you get a natural looking HDR.


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