
@ #Andy carbon fibre might be beyond my budget
@Mike the Boardman one looks nice are you pleased with it? That mountain looks like fun we should have a POTN outing
I was looking at the Carera Crossfire 3

The other is Specialised sirrus sport

I did a twenty mile cycle earlier and feel knacked now. That was was with a break to do some bits in town. Work is 16 miles each way

No carbon is the way to go, buy, buy, buy. Now where have I seen that before
The two bikes you mention have diffrent uses, if you are going to do a lot of road work then get the specialised, it will roll better.
I have just bought a new set of wheels for my bike, you would not be happy with the cost of them
16miles to work, just right an easy hour ride.