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Jan 29, 2012 10:34 |  #1

...the Sigma 30mm I just bought? I'm in the middle of a lens shuffle and just bought the 30mm 1.4 to replace my 50mm 1.8. But out of the box already I am going to have to return the 30mm or send it in for calibration bc of focus issues. I am wondering - if in my other lens shuffles, I ante up and get the 17-55, will I ever even use the 30mm? I saw a couple comments in the photo archive on the 17-55 that folks didn't even use their 30mm anymore. Wondering if I should just send the 30mm back, get a refund and get UWA or save for nice zoom..........decision​s, decisions....


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Jan 29, 2012 10:39 |  #2

Keep the 30mm f/1.4 because there will be times when you need this lens for lower light applications. The 17-55 f/2.8 is a great walk around lens because of its usefull range, but will struggle in low light compared to the prime.

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Jan 29, 2012 10:40 |  #3

As great as my 24-70 is (comparable to the 17-55 apparently), it has not replaced my 50mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.8.


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Jan 29, 2012 10:42 as a reply to  @ davidc502's post |  #4

depends on what you shoot. if you shoot lots of portraits indoor, even outdoor, then keep the siggy 30. if you shoot landscape, then UWA definitely.


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Jan 29, 2012 10:52 |  #5

Yes you sometimes want both, but in my short experience I carry either not both while going out casually (I am a hobbyist).


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Jan 29, 2012 11:32 |  #6

Sounds like the 30mm is a keeper then. I love landscapes but honestly most pictures end up being of the kids...


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Jan 29, 2012 12:00 |  #7

Of course there is a need for it. Getting rid of a lens is like cutting a finger off, don't do it.




  
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Jan 29, 2012 12:41 |  #8

Actually I was doing a walk about on the Vegas strip last night and was using both the 17-55 f2/.8 and the Sigma 30mm f/1.4.

There are some shots you just simply cannot do with the 17-55 f/2.8 that you cannot do with the Sigma and the vice versa. Of course I rarely shoot with my 30MM Sigma above f/2.8


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Jan 29, 2012 12:54 |  #9

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Keep the 30mm f/1.4 because there will be times when you need this lens for lower light applications. The 17-55 f/2.8 is a great walk around lens because of its usefull range, but will struggle in low light compared to the prime.

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I don't think the 17-55 struggles in low light any more than a prime. Here are 2 shots taken in low light, one with the 17-55IS at f/2.8 with ISO at 2500 and one with a 50mm f/1.4 and the ISO set to 640. They both had a shutter speed of 1/6s and both were shot handheld.

I would keep the 30mm though if you sometimes have a need for shallow DOF shots.


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Jan 29, 2012 13:57 |  #10

For me personally, it was a no. I got the 17-50 and 30 at the same time. I didn't use the 30 enough to justify keeping it. To each his own though. If you don't use it, sell it.


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Jan 29, 2012 16:26 |  #11

bob_r wrote in post #13788939 (external link)
I don't think the 17-55 struggles in low light any more than a prime. Here are 2 shots taken in low light, one with the 17-55IS at f/2.8 with ISO at 2500 and one with a 50mm f/1.4 and the ISO set to 640. They both had a shutter speed of 1/6s and both were shot handheld.

I would keep the 30mm though if you sometimes have a need for shallow DOF shots.

In my experience, I totally agree on low light stills but low light action was difficult since IS goes away? And dof too


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Jan 29, 2012 16:48 |  #12

^if you're taking action shots with a 30mm lens i don't think IS matters...

op, it's 2 stops difference...do you think you'll ever need those 2 stops...?


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Jan 29, 2012 16:51 as a reply to  @ DreDaze's post |  #13

I'll never get rid of my 30 f1.4 so long as I have APS-C. I know there are many instances where f2.8 is not sufficient (i.e., Christmas mornings using natural light). I have the f1.4 strapped on most of the morning whereas my previous 17-55 IS and current 17-50 OS are too slow.

Long live f1.4 :lol:




  
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Jan 29, 2012 17:22 |  #14

dingie256 wrote in post #13789988 (external link)
In my experience, I totally agree on low light stills but low light action was difficult since IS goes away? And dof too

IMHO, low light action shots require a flash. If you shoot wide open and increase your ISO settings to get sufficient shutter speed to minimize movement, you won't normally have enough DOF. To me, flash is a much better alternative.


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Jan 29, 2012 19:45 |  #15

I have both because I can. If you have to choose to keep it at the expense of not getting something else you'd use more, then send it back. But if you have the luxury of having both then I bet you will use them both. If I'm at a party or walking the city I have my 17-55. If I'm in the backyard having fun doing portraits or I'm walking a nature trail for example, I'll have the 30. For me the 17-55 is the work horse, an amazing and versatile lens. The 30 1.4 is fun, for when I'm feeling more artsy and creative and want to play with shallow depth of field. I use it when creating a cool photo is more important than capturing a moment, if that makes any sense.


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