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Feb 05, 2012 03:53 |  #1

Morning,

I was playing around and thought I'd give a more details look at using exposure compensation but found something odd.

1) Take pic at +3 looks the same as 0
2) Take pic at -3 and darker than 0

Now I expected 2 but I though 1 would look brighter - the subject was a naturally lit corridor so plenty of scope to wash it out if I wanted.

I'll upload the pics later if that helps, I just have to nip out now.

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Feb 05, 2012 05:39 |  #2

Back again - heres the image if that helps.

Oh, it was handheld hence it not being aligned, but as an example I don't think it matters.

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Feb 05, 2012 07:04 |  #3

Were you shooting in manual for all the shots (I assume you would) and if so that's very strange. When I alter my EV on either the my 7D or 5D2 there's a big difference, especially indoors. The 0 and -3 shots look right, just the +3 hasn't done anything.
I've just shot 3 photos in M and 3 in AV using the same EV and the +3 is way off the scale compared to the 0 both times while the -3 gives a similar pic to yours. Might be an idea to try shooting again just to make sure of your settings.


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Feb 05, 2012 07:08 |  #4

Hi. If you were not in manual then the safety shift option in the custom functions can "over ride" your settings to get what it thinks is a proper exposure. Do this test in manual mode only and disable safety shift.


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Feb 05, 2012 07:15 as a reply to  @ jase1125's post |  #5

Looks like the camera was set to compensate by aperture adjustment, and you were already using full opening at +/- 0. Thus it could close for -3, but not open for +3.
Forget about Safety Shift, it doesn't remove exposure compensation. Automatic lighting optimizer does to some extent, though, but then it wouldn't work with -3 either. So it's probably not that.


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Feb 05, 2012 07:18 |  #6

Unless I'm loosing it there is no exposure compensation in manual - I think I was shooting in TV mode for those shots.

However I tried again, this time using live view and really watching what the status was doing and saw it moving round, adjusting aperture and ISO and to really bug me I get a light, mid and dark shots.

Hmn, so I figure maybe I was in AV, so I try the same and get correct results again - this is all very strange!



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Feb 05, 2012 07:27 |  #7

apersson850 wrote in post #13828513 (external link)
Looks like the camera was set to compensate by aperture adjustment, and you were already using full opening at +/- 0. Thus it could close for -3, but not open for +3.

That would make sense, although the tests I repeated were with the same shot with the same lighting - thanks though its probably right.

I did have a similar things yesterday when out though and it was a bright(ish) day but the images came out really dark - again though probably user error - I've only just got this camera and its much less forgiving than my previous bodies it seems.



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Feb 05, 2012 07:54 |  #8

Here is the retest result - I still don;t really get it but Andre's idea could well be right, I was just playing and saw the oddness, which I repeated at the time but like a numpty deleted the images before I sync'd up a load of stuff from the day before to by server!

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Feb 05, 2012 08:02 |  #9

Okay time to crawl away in shame - I had another go to try and repeat the test, this time to my eye as I had originally and got the same original results!!

What I had done was this - I took the original EC 0 shot fine, half held the shutter, released the shutter, turned the dial then took the shot - I then did this again but for some reason kept the shutter half held and amazingly it worked - to further confuse myself I'd set the minimum shutter speed to 60 to ensure I always get a steady shut without introducing camera shake - this also had the same effect a reflects perfectly what Anders suggested.

So between those two I got the same lack of result via two methods!

What an idiot - I have a funny idea that on the 60D it would still do compensation a little while after the half shutter press was released, but used it so infrequently that I could be wrong - either way I'd a bad habit to break!



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Feb 08, 2012 11:53 |  #10

apersson850 wrote in post #13828513 (external link)
Looks like the camera was set to compensate by aperture adjustment, and you were already using full opening at +/- 0. Thus it could close for -3, but not open for +3.
Forget about Safety Shift, it doesn't remove exposure compensation. Automatic lighting optimizer does to some extent, though, but then it wouldn't work with -3 either. So it's probably not that.

Safety shift certainly impacted my exposure compensation on the 7D. Not sure about the 1D3 though.


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