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Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 Di VC USD Announced!!! Stabilized 24-70!

 
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May 04, 2012 12:17 |  #1396

Looks like the Tamron owns the Canon mk1 hands down!!!

I'm willing to bet it will beat or tie the mk2.

What a fabulous lens! Sorry mk1 owners :(


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May 04, 2012 12:17 |  #1397

montroyal wrote in post #14379179 (external link)
talked to a reseller today and the guy told me that i would have a better chance to get a good copy of the Canon rather than the Tamron

over the 10 last lenses of each sold, no Canon returned out of 10, 3 Tamron back for exchange out of 10

probably true. The tamron just came out, and there does seem to be sample variation. On a FF 2.8, you've got to be very precise, since the DOF is thinner than crops, so there's that extra fine tuning that needs to taken into account. Give it some time to settle, it is a new product afterall.


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May 04, 2012 12:26 |  #1398

Kechar wrote in post #14379212 (external link)
Looks like the Tamron owns the Canon mk1 hands down!!!

I'm willing to bet it will beat or tie the mk2.

What a fabulous lens! Sorry mk1 owners :(

former mk1 owner, I sold mine after testing it against the Tamron. By no means is it a bad lens, quite the contrary. I had to sell it before people start to realize that the tamron is better in nearly every single way :p, with very good VC to boot.

It'll probably retain it's resale value. It's comforting to own the brick; That red ring is very very comforting, and that impeccable build quality.


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May 04, 2012 12:33 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #1399

I don't see why 24-70L II can sit at that price point even due to inflated currency readjustment and it does not have IS.

I really want to see what is it going to deliver, i wonder is it going to disappoint us or surprise us.


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May 04, 2012 12:37 |  #1400

calvinjhfeng wrote in post #14379294 (external link)
I really want to see what is it going to deliver, i wonder is it going to disappoint us or surprise us.

Oh, I have no doubt that it's going to deliver. It's just hard for me to justify paying more for it than I did for 70-200 II :rolleyes:

Hence the Tammy, hope it'll be a good copy :D


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May 04, 2012 12:51 |  #1401

Kechar wrote in post #14379212 (external link)
Looks like the Tamron owns the Canon mk1 hands down!!!

I'm willing to bet it will beat or tie the mk2.

What a fabulous lens! Sorry mk1 owners :(

lol, the ether is strong in here ...

I think we should put them in a ring and see who's tougher....

I'd like to see a head to head AF test......


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May 04, 2012 13:01 |  #1402

thatkatmat wrote in post #14379370 (external link)
lol, the ether is strong in here ...

I think we should put them in a ring and see who's tougher....

I'd like to see a head to head AF test......

I was just kidding btw lol

I don't much care one way or the other. The Tamron feels good to me so far.
I shall lie in the bed that I made...after my 30 day no questions asked return period that is ;)


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May 04, 2012 13:07 |  #1403

Charlie wrote in post #14379256 (external link)
former mk1 owner, I sold mine after testing it against the Tamron. By no means is it a bad lens, quite the contrary. I had to sell it before people start to realize that the tamron is better in nearly every single way :p, with very good VC to boot.

It'll probably retain it's resale value. It's comforting to own the brick; That red ring is very very comforting, and that impeccable build quality.

I figure with the Red ring if I shoot a wall and some of the bricks are out of focus, I can throw the L lens at the wall, and it will survive.... Amazing build quality in those L lenses. ;)


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May 04, 2012 13:18 |  #1404

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if I shoot a wall and some of the bricks are out of focus, I can throw the L lens at the wall, and it will survive....

Nah.. I bet you're thinking of Zeiss glass here. L's don't nearly look tough enough for that. Definitely not the brick. 300L maybe, if you're really angry at the wall. :)


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May 04, 2012 13:48 as a reply to  @ bomzai's post |  #1405

TDP has posted the ISO 12233 resolution charts for Tamron. Looks like the Tammy wins the center and 24-70 L wins the corner sharpness:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=0 (external link)

He cautions about AF issues on his two Tamron copies though:

"Before making your purchase decision, I encourage you to wait for me to spend more time evaluating the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD Lens' AF performance. Neither of the two lenses I have autofocus accurately on the test chart using a Canon-calibrated EOS 1Ds Mark III. I will minimally test the second lens behind a second calibrated 1Ds III and a 5D III."

Looks like a great lens as long as you get a good copy.


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May 04, 2012 13:51 |  #1406

calvinjhfeng wrote in post #14379294 (external link)
I don't see why 24-70L II can sit at that price point even due to inflated currency readjustment and it does not have IS.

I really want to see what is it going to deliver, i wonder is it going to disappoint us or surprise us.

I honestly hope the 24-70 II delay will turn into shelving the product altogether and back the to planning board. They're killing themselves as for sure whatever Nikon comes up with next is going to have VR and this non-IS II will either won't sell much or have a very short life.



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May 04, 2012 14:01 |  #1407

I think Canon thought it could get greedy with the 24-70 II and then they got caught by Tamron with their pants down. Hence why Canon has had to back and either find a cheaper way to make the lens or maybe even add IS for the same price.


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May 04, 2012 14:07 |  #1408

amirg wrote in post #14379651 (external link)
TDP has posted the ISO 12233 resolution charts for Tamron. Looks like the Tammy wins the center and 24-70 L wins the corner sharpness:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=0 (external link)

He cautions about AF issues on his two Tamron copies though:

"Before making your purchase decision, I encourage you to wait for me to spend more time evaluating the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD Lens' AF performance. Neither of the two lenses I have autofocus accurately on the test chart using a Canon-calibrated EOS 1Ds Mark III. I will minimally test the second lens behind a second calibrated 1Ds III and a 5D III."

Looks like a great lens as long as you get a good copy.


Looking at those results, I cannot see any reason for choosing the tamron over the canon 24-105 f4....




  
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May 04, 2012 14:31 |  #1409

pepeto2001 wrote in post #14379745 (external link)
Looking at those results, I cannot see any reason for choosing the tamron over the canon 24-105 f4....

F2.8?

It may be possible that they got a soft copy for their test charts?

My corners @ 2.8 are extremely sharp at 24mm, and the L isnt much behind either.
http://www.fredmiranda​.com …/topic/1110337/​1#10602358 (external link)
http://www.fredmiranda​.com …/topic/1110337/​2#10602546 (external link)
http://www.fredmiranda​.com …/topic/1110337/​2#10602731 (external link)


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May 04, 2012 14:34 |  #1410

Charlie wrote in post #14379841 (external link)
F2.8?

It may be possible that they got a soft copy for their test charts?

My corners @ 2.8 are extremely sharp at 24mm, and the L isnt much behind either.
http://www.fredmiranda​.com …/topic/1110337/​1#10602358 (external link)
http://www.fredmiranda​.com …/topic/1110337/​2#10602546 (external link)
http://www.fredmiranda​.com …/topic/1110337/​2#10602731 (external link)

Well, he had two copies so I guess these are out of the better one. Maybe you got an unusually good copy? :) Let's wait and see what he has to say about the AF issues he's been experiencing with both copies of his.


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