Who's making the switch to Nikon / D800

Shadowblade wrote in post #13923768
D700/D800 are weather sealed to the same level as Nikon's D3 and D4 - i.e., the best available.

5D2 has some improvements over the 5D, but is in no way as sealed as the 1D series (which has similar sealing to the film 1V body, which was Canon's toughest film camera). The 7D is a bit better, but still not up there.

I've personally had several 5D2s fail on me due to bad weather, and have seen other people's 5D2s and 7Ds fail during expeditions. The only time I've seen a Nikon D300, D700, D300s, D3, D3s or D3x body fail was then someone dropped a D300s into a hot spring... and, even then, it worked fine after it was dried out for a few days, and the images on the memory cards were still intact.

Good to know. Thanks.

Drozz119 wrote in post #13917930
I thought that it's more to do with pixels on target than pixel density.

If you take a d7000 with an 85mm lens and a d800 with a 135mm lens.. They'll have close to the same field of view. The d800 will have 36 million pixels on target and the d700 will have 16 million. If they were both 16mp.. They would have the same motion blur.

In reality.. the d800 has more than twice as much blur at the pixel level. Probably why the d800 promo has it in the introduction and the d7000 does not.

Let's use 100mm and 150mm, to be more accurate (the D800 has 1.5x as many pixels in each dimension). The underlying analog blur is 1.5x as many pixel units. Total blur is more closely related to analog motion blur plus a fraction of pixel size, because dragging the blur over an edge into a bigger pixel means blurring it even further. Bigger pixels migrate photons further away from their ideal target, on average. Too much spread.

RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #13923655
A D800E, would be above 7D resolution.

How do you figure that? My math is that a FF sensor of 7D pixel density would yield 18MP x 1.6 x 1.6 = 46 MP. Are you including the improvement from removal of the AA filter?

lungdoc wrote in post #13924347
How do you figure that? My math is that a FF sensor of 7D pixel density would yield 18MP x 1.6 x 1.6 = 46 MP. Are you including the improvement from removal of the AA filter?

Yes

Thought so and agree on principle - has it been measured in terms of equivalent resolving power of an AA filter version?

I'm going to wait it out and see how people get on with both (assuming a new Canon does come out) so got myself a Fuji X100 to play with and make snapping fun again

echo wrote in post #13925474
I'm going to wait it out and see how people get on with both (assuming a new Canon does come out) so got myself a Fuji X100 to play with and make snapping fun again

Yay!

I think a lot of us get a bit lost in technological excellence. I switched to Canon's 1D bodies because the AF on the 5D2 was doing my head in. But i'm face palming at people switching systems on the spec of this D800. Canon will evolve with the next 5D body if lots of pixels are what you want, and something less **** than the 5D2's AF which is dreadful.

Not quite ready for a major overhaul in MP myself, so i'll be a happy bunny with the 1DX when mine arrives in a week or three

Jahled wrote in post #13925885
Yay!

I think a lot of us get a bit lost in technological excellence. I switched to Canon's 1D bodies because the AF on the 5D2 was doing my head in. But i'm face palming at people switching systems on the spec of this D800. Canon will evolve with the next 5D body if lots of pixels are what you want, and something less **** than the 5D2's AF which is dreadful.

Not quite ready for a major overhaul in MP myself, so i'll be a happy bunny with the 1DX when mine arrives in a week or three

You only used 4 *'s, you needed 6 *'s.


just saying

pyrojim wrote in post #13925983
You only used 4 *'s, you needed 6 *'s.


just saying

The guy I sold my 1D4 to is truly loving it to bits, so much so we are going to hire a 500 f/4 one weekend

And found a super cheap place to hire them from: http://www.lensesforhi​re.co.uk …00mm-f4-l-is-usm-12-p.asp

DarthVader wrote in post #13920140
Ching will provide candies for every person that switches to Nikon ..right ? .

I'm afraid I will run out of candies very quickly

Jahled wrote in post #13925885
Yay!

I think a lot of us get a bit lost in technological excellence. I switched to Canon's 1D bodies because the AF on the 5D2 was doing my head in. But i'm face palming at people switching systems on the spec of this D800. Canon will evolve with the next 5D body if lots of pixels are what you want, and something less **** than the 5D2's AF which is dreadful.

Not quite ready for a major overhaul in MP myself, so i'll be a happy bunny with the 1DX when mine arrives in a week or three

1DX sounds really awesome, I miss my 1 Series body very much. I hope you get great results when it arrives

echo wrote in post #13930744
1DX sounds really awesome, I miss my 1 Series body very much. I hope you get great results when it arrives

A lot of landscapers switched to Canon on the basis of the 5D2's resolution advantage over the D700 alone. The D800's resolution advantage over the 5D2 is just as large, and even larger when compared to the 1Dx. That it has great AF and weather sealing is just icing on the cake here.

Shadowblade wrote in post #13931354
A lot of landscapers switched to Canon on the basis of the 5D2's resolution advantage over the D700 alone. The D800's resolution advantage over the 5D2 is just as large, and even larger when compared to the 1Dx. That it has great AF and weather sealing is just icing on the cake here.

Shadowblade,

You are spot-on with your analysis and have been this entire thread. I am moving up to the E from a D300 and I'm fully prepared to be blown away by the files.

BTW, what are you shooting with now and what is your workflow? I love your landscape work and your post-processing, very impressive.

Regards,
Nicholas
www.copperhillimages.c​om

Shadowblade wrote in post #13931354
A lot of landscapers switched to Canon on the basis of the 5D2's resolution advantage over the D700 alone. The D800's resolution advantage over the 5D2 is just as large, and even larger when compared to the 1Dx. That it has great AF and weather sealing is just icing on the cake here.

It does sound very tempting - will the Nikon let you do Live View focusing as with the 5D? I tend to MF using that most of the time taking portraits now.

echo wrote in post #13934362
It does sound very tempting - will the Nikon let you do Live View focusing as with the 5D? I tend to MF using that most of the time taking portraits now.

You should be able to do this with the D800 no problem. The very same features of LV from the D3 and on are the same. And you get the live histogram too.