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lauderdalems
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Feb 12, 2012 08:21 |  #1

Baseball problem - uniform is white shirt and white pants. Weather is clear - zero clouds. Time of day is 1-3 pm.

My camera exposure is all over the place, manual setting don't work. Thank goodness I shoot only raw. Normal lens is 300 f4.

Any suggestions?


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Feb 12, 2012 08:49 |  #2

Clear day with zero clouds......I cannot fathom how you conclude M mode does not work. Select an exposure that pushes the whites of the uniforms hard against the right side of the histogram on the verge of clipping. If you are struggling with shadows under hats, all you can do is manipulate the curve to bring them up.

Other than that as a general course, try posting some samples.


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Feb 12, 2012 11:27 |  #3

lauderdalems wrote in post #13872881 (external link)
Baseball problem - uniform is white shirt and white pants. Weather is clear - zero clouds. Time of day is 1-3 pm. My camera exposure is all over the place, manual setting don't work. Thank goodness I shoot only raw. Normal lens is 300 f4. Any suggestions?

Baseball pictures taken under those conditions.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Image Date: 2011-08-31 13:39:51
Focal Length: 300.0mm
Aperture: f/5.6
Exposure Time: 0.0001 s (1/8000)
ISO equiv: 1000
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Manual
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Image Date: 2011-08-31 13:10:26
Focal Length: 200.0mm
Aperture: f/3.2
Exposure Time: 0.0005 s (1/2000)
ISO equiv: 100
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Manual
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Image Date: 2011-08-31 13:15:22
Focal Length: 200.0mm
Aperture: f/4.0
Exposure Time: 0.0006 s (1/1600)
ISO equiv: 100
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Manual
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB


From a Canon 60D and various lenses. Moved back and forth between shutter priority and aperture priority, got fast shutter speeds on a sunny day. Had no exposure problems, regardless of settings. The camera made the correct exposure choices.



  
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Feb 12, 2012 12:04 |  #4

JeffreyG wrote in post #13872961 (external link)
Clear day with zero clouds......I cannot fathom how you conclude M mode does not work. Select an exposure that pushes the whites of the uniforms hard against the right side of the histogram on the verge of clipping. If you are struggling with shadows under hats, all you can do is manipulate the curve to bring them up.

Other than that as a general course, try posting some samples.

Yeah, this ^^

How can manual exposure "not work"? You set the exposure that gives you a suitably exposed image, if it isn't suitably exposed then you have set it wrong. As JeffreyG says, you just set your exposure to capture the whites without blowing them out. Use the histogram and blinkies to set the exposure at the point where you are just avoiding clipping the whites and all will be well. Worry about bringing up shadow detail later, if you can't use fill lighting.

You say your exposure was "all over the place", so presumably you were shooting in a semi-auto mode, which would be thrown off in those conditions and give variable (so usually wrong) meter readings. That is exactly the situation when manual is the only thing that works and gives you consistent, correctly exposed, results (assuming you set it correctly of course).




  
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Feb 12, 2012 12:25 as a reply to  @ sandpiper's post |  #5

The others above are right. Here's a "quick and dirty" setup to try without a lot of explanation: Manual mode, meter on the grass and center the needle; or Manual mode, meter on the palm of your hand (in the same lighting as the players, of course) and set your exposure so it shows you're overexposing about one stop. That should put you in the ballpark, so to speak.


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Feb 12, 2012 20:43 |  #6

I had much better luck today. Thanks for the comments and tips


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Feb 14, 2012 20:03 |  #7

Man, I HATE when Manual doesn't work! Good thing I have the P setting for Professional...


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Feb 14, 2012 20:18 |  #8

Manual setting was working - looks like my problem (which has been corrected) was not setting it manually correctly.
This is what I got the following day...

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Feb 15, 2012 06:58 |  #9

Wow, 2342 pix tall is too big.
ISO400 and 1/4000 is a bit unnecessary


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Feb 15, 2012 08:12 |  #10

Yea, sorry about that size. I had linked to the wrong size picture. The size has been corrected. IISO was set as I was trying to get ball on bat, instead I got ball on player.


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Feb 15, 2012 13:28 |  #11

Could have caught the same shot with ISO 100 and 1/1000


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Feb 15, 2012 13:37 |  #12

lauderdalems wrote in post #13872881 (external link)
manual setting don't work

???

best comment ever.


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Feb 15, 2012 13:44 |  #13

No, manual setting does work - when you get your setting rights first. After my first game of the season I got back to shooting baseball mostly in manual mode without any problems. Guess I was a little rusty.


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