I came across this a few days ago, it says exactly what I think, and is one of the best blog posts I've read in a couple of years. It's very true, and well worth discussion. what do you think?
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harroz Goldmember 2,749 posts Joined May 2008 Location: New Zealand More info | Feb 13, 2012 13:34 | #1 I came across this a few days ago, it says exactly what I think, and is one of the best blog posts I've read in a couple of years. It's very true, and well worth discussion. what do you think?
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RDKirk Adorama says I'm "packed." More info | Feb 14, 2012 07:21 | #2 In my own work, I'm winding up in the position of this commentator to that essay: It strikes me that we are almost going back to a time where the only sustainable business model for a photographer/artist was that of seeking patronage. For instance, I shoot documentary weddings as part of my business. For those assignments, I am shooting directly for an end-client who has chosen to employ me to produce work solely for them. They like my work and the want me to deliver something to them in the same style. A second example: I’m approaching individual corporate clients with suggested book projects that are tailor-made to them. They too follow a patron pattern in many regards. These are projects, perhaps vanity projects in some ways, that connect directly with the end client in a way a normal commercial assignment doesn’t. TANSTAAFL--The Only Unbreakable Rule in Photography
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Numenorean Cream of the Crop 5,013 posts Likes: 28 Joined Feb 2011 More info | Feb 14, 2012 07:31 | #3 1 in 500 graduating photography majors huh?
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jra Cream of the Crop 6,568 posts Likes: 35 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Ohio More info | Feb 14, 2012 09:31 | #4 IMO, the market is obviously changing (as it always does). I don't buy into the whole "doomsday" theory.....if a market is un-sustainable, then it obviously will not last and prices will have to bounce back to a sustainable level otherwise the service or good will disappear (since people can't produce it at an un-sustainable level). Companies will always have a need for high quality advertising media and therefore a need for someone to create it. IMO, there will always be photographers who figure out a way to market themselves, their businesses and their product in a successful manner and make money. On the other side of the equation, there will be plenty more who try and won't make it.
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Candyann Member 113 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2011 More info | Feb 14, 2012 11:06 | #5 I think a lot of factors are at play for a photographers failure to make a living. Some photographers just lack good business sense and customer handling skills. Too many times I have heard of my realatives and friends waiting 6-10 months for their wedding photos. It really shouldn't be a surprise as to why some "good" photographers fail. It doesn't matter how good of a photographer you are if you are also a flake, word will get around.
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Feb 14, 2012 13:29 | #6 yeah, I'm not buying into the doomsday theory, although I can see it as a 'could happen' for sure. I'm certainly not a bitter soul, but I am VERY passionate about what I do. yes the very good ones will find a way. That wasn't really why I posted it though, I posted it for the reason of licensing and copyright, and how it's so easily being given away for the sake of getting the job, a lot of new photographers aren't confident enough in their work or themselves to go through the licensing, or they're too lazy maybe? for what ever reason it's changed the income of the photographer, and their future income/retirement fund. jra wrote in post #13895550 IMO, the market is obviously changing (as it always does). I don't buy into the whole "doomsday" theory.....if a market is un-sustainable, then it obviously will not last and prices will have to bounce back to a sustainable level otherwise the service or good will disappear (since people can't produce it at an un-sustainable level). Companies will always have a need for high quality advertising media and therefore a need for someone to create it. IMO, there will always be photographers who figure out a way to market themselves, their businesses and their product in a successful manner and make money. On the other side of the equation, there will be plenty more who try and won't make it. As the market changes, we must find new and different ways to adapt and sell our services if we want to be successful. The ones who refuse to change and simply sit back trying to market themselves by what used to work, while complaining about how the market isn't how it used to be, simply aren't going to last long. They will be the bitter souls whom we see posting on forums and blogs about how photography is dead and no one can make it in the industry anymore because all of the amateurs ruined everything. Just my offhand take on things ![]()
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Feb 14, 2012 13:36 | #7 hit the nail on the head? maybe it's this business sense, or lack of, lack of understanding any more than pressing the button on the camera and getting a few bucks. Candyann wrote in post #13896089 I think a lot of factors are at play for a photographers failure to make a living. Some photographers just lack good business sense and customer handling skills. Too many times I have heard of my realatives and friends waiting 6-10 months for their wedding photos. It really shouldn't be a surprise as to why some "good" photographers fail. It doesn't matter how good of a photographer you are if you are also a flake, word will get around.
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Candyann Member 113 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2011 More info | Feb 14, 2012 18:08 | #8 harroz wrote in post #13896946 but, with photographers having to charge a lot less, they have to do a lot more, so they haven't got time to process the wedding photos until after the season is over, they're shooting all sorts of things through summer just to keep their heads above water. And that is where we touch on the business sense aspect again, obviously something isn't working.I understand it is hard out there, some places more than others. But if you are good, people will pay if they want it.
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Bosscat Goldmember 1,892 posts Likes: 3 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Ontario Canada More info | Feb 19, 2012 17:58 | #10 Thanks Gates for planting the seeds of the cheap photo back in the early 90's Your camera is alot smarter than the "M" Zealots would have you believe
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