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Feb 14, 2012 00:03 |  #1

Anyone use them? If you do are they worth the money. Has anyone had clients from years ago tell you that their DVD or CD went bad? Just curious if this is something i should consider.

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Feb 14, 2012 09:07 |  #2

I have old CD-R's from when the fastest burners were 2x and they still work fine. If you take care of them, there shouldn't be an issue.

What I do use is the printable DVD's with aquaguard or whatever the other brand name is.


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Feb 14, 2012 10:57 |  #3

Thanks for the response. I personally have never had a CD or DVD go bad. I also keep any critical info in more than one place. Good tip on the aquaguard, i'll have to start using that


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Feb 14, 2012 13:46 |  #4

I've had a number of good brand DVDs go bad. I use taiyo yuden dvds, meant to be the best in the world, but they still fail.


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Feb 14, 2012 13:50 |  #5

MikeKS wrote in post #13896033 (external link)
Thanks for the response. I personally have never had a CD or DVD go bad. I also keep any critical info in more than one place. Good tip on the aquaguard, i'll have to start using that

Yeah it should never be a one-place thing. They are fragile since the data is written on the media on the top of the disc, but then I take very good care of stuff so eh... Just keep backups of stuff. For clients, the final images take up far less room than the RAW's that I start with - so I could burn copies of everything I've ever shot if necessary. It's my landscape work that takes a lot more space for "final" images.


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Feb 14, 2012 14:10 |  #6

I had had plenty of discs go bad on me... typically around the 5 year mark. So I switched to archival grade discs. I've used both Taiyo Yuden TYG03 and Delkin 24k gold discs. But seem to be good... TYG03 rated for 75 years and the Delkins DVDs are 100 years. TYG03 uses some kind of special dye layer to achieve reliability, and Delkin uses 24k gold in it's reflective layer. Since gold is inert, it will not corrode over time, hence the reliability. Two different approaches. I prefer the Delkins, but a few years ago I switched to TYG03 just because they had hub-printable inkjet discs. At the time, Delkin did not. Maybe that has changed since. I should go check!

But I do not trust non-archival media for anything. Like I said, many of my discs corrupted after 5 years. Not saying I fully trust achival discs, but I trust them more than regular discs.


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Feb 14, 2012 14:37 |  #7

I am stating to deliver images on a Thumb Drives and a DVD. I use the Taiyo Yuden TYG03 disks as well.


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Feb 14, 2012 14:41 |  #8

This is the specific ones I use:

http://www.amazon.com …TF8&qid=1329252​062&sr=8-8 (external link)


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Feb 14, 2012 14:50 |  #9

scorpio_e wrote in post #13897329 (external link)
I am stating to deliver images on a Thumb Drives and a DVD. I use the Taiyo Yuden TYG03 disks as well.

There's another thread about that. Thumb drives are also prone to data loss after the 10 year mark. Not too much better than a non-archival DVD-R.


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Feb 14, 2012 17:01 |  #10

picturecrazy wrote in post #13897401 (external link)
There's another thread about that. Thumb drives are also prone to data loss after the 10 year mark. Not too much better than a non-archival DVD-R.

VERY interesting ...I thought thumb drives were more stable than DVD's.

Makes a strong argument to make prints ...


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Feb 14, 2012 17:01 |  #11

scorpio_e wrote in post #13898144 (external link)
VERY interesting ...I thought thumb drives were more stable than DVD's.

Makes a strong argument to make prints ...

There's another thread about that. It seems that UV light damages prints over time.


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Feb 14, 2012 17:04 |  #12

A great article on this very topic -> http://adterrasperaspe​ra.com …oose-cddvd-archival-media (external link)


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Feb 14, 2012 17:07 |  #13

Numenorean wrote in post #13898148 (external link)
There's another thread about that. It seems that UV light damages prints over time.

UV light damage over COMPLETE failure..I will take fading any day:)


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Feb 14, 2012 20:22 |  #14

A scratch can ruin any DVD. An out of alignment DVD writer/reader can make any disk unreadable by any machine.


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Feb 14, 2012 21:24 |  #15

interesting... I think i'm gonna hold out on flash drives for awhile and use the inkjet printable disc that Numenorean is using. I believe that presentation of a DVD has much greater impact than a flash drive. The obvious is the longevity of archival disc over flash. What i think matters more is the feeling clients get when they open a DVD case over a Flash Drive. I know when i got married and got the DVD packaging in the mail it was really nice. I can't imagine the same feeling if i were to open it and get a flash drive.

i am going to start recommend to clients is to make sure that they back up their images on another source. In addition to the disc and my archives of their event/wedding


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