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Feb 14, 2012 15:36 |  #16

Wow, So many replies. Instead of replying one by one, this is a big reply.

Money isn't an issue per say, I can afford the 24-105L, it will just take me a little while to recollect the funds needed. I picked up the 17-40 at a steal of 450$, which was about half of my lens allotment.

I was looking at the 28-135, simply because it's cheap and it produces decent quality images, but It's no L lens, which I'm afraid I'll notice and be bummed about.

I don't want to sell my 17-40, I love it, I have no issues with it. In the past two months I've wanted a longer lens in two situations, and I shoot daily. The 17mm comes in handy when I'm in town, narrow streets. Sometimes the 17mm isn't even wide enough.

I do understand that there will probably be overlap, this isn't an issue for me.


I think what I should do it hold out and find a 70-200f4L for a decent price, (450-550$ frequently), and then a 50mm 1.8/1.4. That would cover the ranges I want without overlap, and for half the price. Not a bad idea? Edit: This is what I'll do. No point in selling a lens that I absolutely love for a lens that I won't use nearly as much. Thanks for the help guys.

Someone suggested selling the 17-40L in favor of the 24-105, so lets do the math. I'd get 500-600 out of my 17-40, so I'd owe 400 on the 24-105. I'd then have to purchase a sigma or canon 10-22 to cover the range I use most frequently, which would cost 450-750. Doesn't seem logical to me.


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Feb 15, 2012 06:41 |  #17

Where are you located? I have a 28-135 that I'd be willing to lend to you.
I'm in Maryland. About 45 minutes from Philadelphia, PA.


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Feb 15, 2012 06:55 |  #18

L.J.G. wrote in post #13897508 (external link)
The 28-135 is cheap and cheery. It has a similar trombone zoom as the 24-105, but unlike the quality build and feel of the 24-105 the 28-135 has sideways slop and feels relatively cheaply made. It also suffers zoom creep - big time, where I have yet to notice any creep on the 24-105.

The IQ difference is quite noticeable, but mainly when viewing images at 100%. You look at the 24-105 and think yep, that's not bad, you then do the same with the 28-135 and think yuk, that is soft! .

they are different lens at different prices but the 28-135 is noticeably soft at the long end compared to other lens like the cheap 55-250IS

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Feb 15, 2012 07:11 |  #19

You would be right to hold onto your 17-40 IMO. On your crop body, all of the lenses 24-x, 28-x etc. are not wide enough for an everyday lens. Wouldn't be a good idea to sell the 17-40 unless you replaced it with something 18mm or less IMO.

Also it never seems to work out when people sell a lens they love, and they usually end up buying it back again soon after. But if you were to sell it I would suggest looking at the 17-55 2.8 IS and the 15-85 IS. I think what you plan to do is probably the best idea. A nifty fifty and 70-200 will complement the 17-40 nicely :)


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Feb 15, 2012 08:32 |  #20

Chris R/T wrote in post #13901068 (external link)
Where are you located? I have a 28-135 that I'd be willing to lend to you.
I'm in Maryland. About 45 minutes from Philadelphia, PA.

Very generous offer, but I'm in southern maine, a little too far!


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Feb 15, 2012 08:34 |  #21

mattmorgan44 wrote in post #13901151 (external link)
You would be right to hold onto your 17-40 IMO. On your crop body, all of the lenses 24-x, 28-x etc. are not wide enough for an everyday lens. Wouldn't be a good idea to sell the 17-40 unless you replaced it with something 18mm or less IMO.

Also it never seems to work out when people sell a lens they love, and they usually end up buying it back again soon after. But if you were to sell it I would suggest looking at the 17-55 2.8 IS and the 15-85 IS. I think what you plan to do is probably the best idea. A nifty fifty and 70-200 will complement the 17-40 nicely :)

I've had a few lens of my own, and I've borrowed and rented lots. The 17-40 is by far one of my favorites. I don't think I'll ever sell it. Now I have to decide which 70-200. I think the f4 without IS is more than enough for me. I've never owned a lens with IS, so I don't think I need it now, so the extra cost would be just for a few extra lbs, and some sharpness. I think I'll grab an original :)


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Feb 15, 2012 09:19 |  #22

MuteGoose wrote in post #13901427 (external link)
Very generous offer, but I'm in southern maine, a little too far!

No problem, just tryin' to help! :)


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Feb 15, 2012 22:53 |  #23

MuteGoose wrote in post #13901437 (external link)
I've had a few lens of my own, and I've borrowed and rented lots. The 17-40 is by far one of my favorites. I don't think I'll ever sell it. Now I have to decide which 70-200. I think the f4 without IS is more than enough for me. I've never owned a lens with IS, so I don't think I need it now, so the extra cost would be just for a few extra lbs, and some sharpness. I think I'll grab an original :)

It really depends what your shooting, but the IS can really come in handy with a max f/4.0. Just because you've never had it doesn't mean you won't love it :) if your shooting all outdoors with plenty of light, buy all means the non-IS should be a fine or better option. If you are shooting low light, the IS can really help


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Feb 15, 2012 23:38 |  #24

For a crop, look for an efs lens. Most bang for buck = tamron 17-50 non vc


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Feb 16, 2012 00:08 |  #25

For 'bang for the buck' the 28-135 is a pretty darn decent lens and I've seen them offered new out of kits for $250 or less. Definitely not a fast lens but if you're out and about in daylight it makes nice images.


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Feb 16, 2012 00:29 |  #26

MuteGoose wrote in post #13897252 (external link)
Hey Guys,

Looking to expand my lens selection. I currently own a 17-40L and a 40d. Looking for something to fill the gap up to 100mm. Like a 24-105, or something similar. I had a 28-105, but the quality just wasn't there, it wasn't very sharp and the colors were off. Looking to not break the bank, I prefer buying used. Not looking to buy out of this thread, just recommendations. Looking for great quality, and reasonable price. Brand doesn't matter to me.

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Depending on what you want, curently you can refer 70-200f/2.8 used.


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Feb 16, 2012 00:30 |  #27

Effectively by buying a 17-40 for your APS-C DSLR, you bought a standard zoom that comes up short on the telephoto end. Not much out there that complements the 17-40 on a crop sensor that doesn't seriously overlap with the 17-40 focal range.

If you had bought one of the usual standard zooms that goes to 50 or 55mm, you could have bought a 70-200 or 70-300 and live with the gap between 50/55 and 70mm.

I personally own a 17-55/2.8, 28-135, and 24-105. I would recommend the 24-105 over the 28-135. I can't see myself buying a 28-135 to complement a 17-40.

Another idea would be to go super cheap and buy a 55-250. You get nice focal range for a bit more than you spent now.

Another idea would be to go for a 70-200 or 70-300 telephoto zoom and put a 50/1.4 in the gap; at least the prime would be fast.


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Feb 16, 2012 00:42 |  #28

The OP's thoughts of a 50 prime and a 70-200 is probably a safe bet.

For a long time, I only operated with a 35 f/1.4L and a 70-200 f/2.8L IS II with the 7D and 5D mark II and pretty much lived with the gap between 35 and 70. Although I sort of 'cheated' and treated the 35L as my '50mm' on the 7D.

As far as 70-200 f/4L, I'd recommend the IS. The 70-200 f/4L non-IS was my first L lens. It was a great lens for the cost, but I think IS is invaluable with a 200. Not just because it's f/4, but a lot of times you want to stop down and don't have the luxury of a tripod.


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Feb 16, 2012 02:07 as a reply to  @ ocabj's post |  #29

I will suggest a new option not yet on the table. Why not get the Tamron 28-75/2.8? It doesn't go to 100, but 75 will cover the portrait lengths well on crop. Mine was good at 2.8 and sharp as a tack at f4.0. The only problem I had with it was the slow focus speed, but I have young kids who can't sit still and was why I upgraded to the 24-105. If you intend on shooting more disciplined subjects, it might not be an issue for you. You could then add the 55-250 to cover the long end on a budget until you can afford a 70-200 of one flavor or another.


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Feb 16, 2012 02:37 as a reply to  @ FEChariot's post |  #30

If you're thinking of going full frame in the next few months buy the Canon 24-105L IS.

If you're sticking with a crop sensor camera buy the Canon EF-S 15-85mm IS and sell the 17-40L.

Your 17-40L has an equivelant FF focal length of 27-64mm.

The 15-85mm will give you a FF equivelant focal length of 24-136mm. So it's wider and longer and has IS. You lose a stop at the longer end but that is the only downside.

It is also sharper on a crop than the 17-40L. ISO comparisons: Here (external link) (Move mouse over picture to comapre the two).

By all means you can stick to the 17-40L & 24-105L it's just a pain to change lenses all the time. I use these on my FF although I have to say I barely use the 17-40L now and I have just ordered a 15-85mm as my walkaround lense for one of my 50D's.


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