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Feb 20, 2012 13:27 |  #1

Signed up for a photo shoot / class next weekend and one of the requirements was to bring a pocket wizard. For some reason, flash and triggers seem to escape me a bit. I have used my 580EX on camera, but not much more, so I can be more than a bit confused. I am reading all I can, but not yet all clear.

I checked and most were recommending a Flex TT5 rather than Mini TT if for no other reason than AA batteries as opposed to harder to find wafer batteries. And more control. So I bought a Flex TT5. I can't see many times I would want to use this with my 580 EX II off camera, so did not buy a set, just one transceiver. I also figured that "one day" if I ever got monolights, I could use this there as well. So rather than rent, I bought.

Now I learn that if I want to use this with my 580 EX II (would not be the first time I learned something and changed my mind), I need to use the RFI shield, which seems to be a hassle. And with the 580EX II, I get "full" control over settings, but if I get studio lights, the Flex TT5 is only a trigger to shoot and will control not other settings. Is that true?

If so, I am unsure that this is much a value to me. If I get Elinchroms one day, as I currently think would be the sweet spot for value, I'd use their Skyports. And cannot seem to find many lights with built in PocketWizard receivers and on the ones I do fine, seem to be higher end and at that, cannot seem to find how much control, if any, the Flex TT 5 will allow with these lights.

So, this whole things has me a bit confused. I may have bought the PW Flex only to use on this shoot and maybe should have rented for the day. On the other hand, maybe I just do not understand enough of how this is all used and should be buying a Mini TT to go with it and learn to use my 580 EX II off camera :)

Any words of insight so I can better grasp what this can and cannot do for me?

Thanks.

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Feb 20, 2012 20:14 |  #2

For studio lights, your Flex can trigger certain ones. I'm guessing this is why you were told to bring one to the class. Only a few types of strobes can be fully controlled remotely; most are simply triggered as far as I know. Obviously the Flex will be useless without some other device to act as receiver or transmitter.

If you are likely to use strobes a lot and don't buy one with built-in PW, you can buy a Plus2 to go with the Flex. They will be available on the used market pretty cheap in a month or two, as the Plus3 is coming out at a lower price. :)

Or you can get a Mini or another Flex and shoot with your 580 with the option of E-TTL.

I think you understand this all, really, but maybe some different words help.What do you do now? What do you need OCF for?


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Feb 20, 2012 21:44 |  #3

Thanks Anton. I do but not well enough. Have never had a need for OFC, so if it hadn't been for the "bring a PocketWizard" for the meet, would have waitid for studio lights some time in my future for triggers. As it is, I think this will be a paper weight after this meetup. Its ok. I had just expected it to control a bit more with studio lights. We'll see what I learn using it this weekend.

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Feb 21, 2012 05:33 |  #4

Let us know how it goes. By itself, "Bring a Pocket Wizard" could mean just bring a trigger so you can trigger their strobe, but if they had several fully PW-controlled strobes it would be cool to be able to control the ratios.


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Feb 21, 2012 06:41 |  #5

Talk to the class organizer. A lot of times "bring a pocket wizard" means "bring a pocket wizard, if you have one". It really depends on how the class is structured when it comes to shooting. Most of the times I've done a class only one person is shooting at a time, and most people don't bring PWs. So, I just pass mine around when I'm not shooting.

I bought a PW the first time I signed up for a class like you and didn't really need it for that reason. I use them all the time on my own now so the purchase ended up being worthwhile in the long run :)

If you decide you don't need it it should sell for a decent value on Ebay or wherever (if you can't return it).


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Feb 21, 2012 16:37 |  #6

There are a number of 'levels' of flash trigger functionality:

  • A transmitter can send the 'trigger' signal to any flash with a built-in compatible receiver or an external trigger receiver.
  • An ETTL compatible trigger can send 'preflash' and 'power control' signals to any ETTL-comptible flash with a built-in compatible ETTL-compatible receiver or an external ETTL-compatible trigger receiver.
  • Few studio strobes have ETTL-compatibility, they simple are 'triggered' with no remote flash power control for them.

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