Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
Thread started 27 Feb 2012 (Monday) 06:33
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

An important tool for the RAW/ETTR shooter

 
tzalman
Fatal attraction.
Avatar
13,497 posts
Likes: 213
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel
     
Feb 27, 2012 06:33 |  #1

A problem that is often encountered by the would-be ETTR shooter is knowing exactly how much he can move the histogram to the right before it clips. Relying on the camera histogram and/or clipping warnings (blinkies) can be very misleading because they are derived from a highly processed version of the photo. Similarly, the histogram of a shot of a grey card does not represent the real RAW capture, but rather the result of processing designed to render the capture as a medium grey in a finished version.

There are only a few ways to see a real RAW histogram; to know what your camera really captures before white balance, tone curves and other processing fundamentally change it. In the past we had the excellent Rawnalyze program, but unfortunately its author died a few years ago and it has not been updated for new cameras (if you can even find it). Now however Iliah Borg (who is well known in the Nikon community as a veteran creator of NEF RAW converters) has authored a new application for analyzing RAW files, Raw Digger. It is still in beta and can be downloaded at:
http://www.rawdigger.c​om/ (external link)

Using the program one can, for instance, determine the exact highlight clipping point for your camera as encoded by the ACD, which is rarely at the 14 bit maximum (16,383). For the 5D2 it is 15,760 (before black point deduction). Once you know that, you can determine the value of the RAW capture according to a spot reading and thus know the number of stops of headroom between the spot meter calibration and clipping. For a fuller explanation and examples, see:
http://www.rawdigger.c​om …se/lightmeter-calibration (external link)


Elie / אלי

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tom ­ Reichner
"That's what I do."
Avatar
17,636 posts
Gallery: 213 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8386
Joined Dec 2008
Location: from Pennsylvania, USA, now in Washington state, USA, road trip back and forth a lot
     
Feb 27, 2012 12:24 |  #2

Sounds like a great tool, but I must admit, my brain is spinning just trying to understand the details you shared.


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tonylong
...winded
Avatar
54,657 posts
Gallery: 60 photos
Likes: 571
Joined Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA USA
     
Feb 27, 2012 14:19 |  #3

Interesting Elie, I'll have to try it out!


Tony
Two Canon cameras (5DC, 30D), three Canon lenses (24-105, 100-400, 100mm macro)
Tony Long Photos on PBase (external link)
Wildlife project pics here (external link), Biking Photog shoots here (external link), "Suburbia" project here (external link)! Mount St. Helens, Mount Hood pics here (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tonylong
...winded
Avatar
54,657 posts
Gallery: 60 photos
Likes: 571
Joined Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA USA
     
Feb 27, 2012 14:24 |  #4

Just a quick note: presently the app is Windows-only, although OSX and possibly Linux will (hopefully) be future offerings.


Tony
Two Canon cameras (5DC, 30D), three Canon lenses (24-105, 100-400, 100mm macro)
Tony Long Photos on PBase (external link)
Wildlife project pics here (external link), Biking Photog shoots here (external link), "Suburbia" project here (external link)! Mount St. Helens, Mount Hood pics here (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,623 views & 0 likes for this thread, 3 members have posted to it.
An important tool for the RAW/ETTR shooter
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1096 guests, 120 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.