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Do cops have the right to prevent photographers recording time lapse video?

 
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Mar 05, 2012 23:49 |  #181

PeteD wrote in post #14033121 (external link)
They are all different depending on what state you live in. You would have to check your local laws. But under the Homeland Security Act, they do indeed have many more powers then once before

And they are now tasked with things that were once well outside their sphere...


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Mar 05, 2012 23:53 |  #182

PeteD wrote in post #14033121 (external link)
They are all different depending on what state you live in. You would have to check your local laws. But under the Homeland Security Act, they do indeed have many more powers then once before

What a rotten despicable act 911 was (and the other dates that live on in infamy) it most definately changed our lives as we knew it in the West.


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Mar 06, 2012 00:06 as a reply to  @ post 14033062 |  #183

In regards to local police departments, a few big changes have been the degree of militarization in terms of training and equipment, significantly greater surveillance powers, larger and more active SWAT teams, and changes in search warrant requirements that basically allow the police to break into a house at will.

Just like with McCarthyism, if you're innocent you have nothing to worry about. Luckily, I'm a white, upper-middle-class guy with no accent, who's lucky enough to know a couple of cops and judges. So why should I care about the rights of some suspicious looking stranger? I guess that's the general attitude and that's how our rights slowly evaporate.


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Mar 06, 2012 05:37 |  #184

PeteD wrote in post #14033028 (external link)
Not to mention, stuff like this gives photogs a bad name in general by people who know nothing about photography and sit at home and see this on youtube or the news and think we are all like this.

That might be true if it were only happening to photographers, but it's not. And the police are losing lawsuits against non-photographers, too, for abusing their authority.

I think the effect on public perception of photographers is minimal or nonexistent.




  
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Mar 06, 2012 13:42 |  #185

People tend to toss out comments on threads like this without reading the thread first and then thoughtfully addressing the points that have been brought out that approach things from a different point of view!


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Mar 06, 2012 14:17 |  #186

fotoworx wrote in post #14033147 (external link)
What a rotten despicable act 911 was (and the other dates that live on in infamy) it most definately changed our lives as we knew it in the West.

To be completely accurate, 911 did not change our lives as we knew it in the West. It was how we reacted to it that changed our lives. We could have very easily said "we refuse to sacrifice the individual liberties we hold dear, even in the face of these kinds of attacks, in the name of more security." But we didn't. Whether you think that's a good thing or not is a question of opinion, but the fact is that we voluntarily chose our reaction to those attacks.


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Mar 06, 2012 16:54 |  #187

canadave wrote in post #14036693 (external link)
... we voluntarily chose our reaction to those attacks.

We may have chosen our emotional reactions to the attacks but the societal changes that followed were mostly the result of politicians' and businessmen's exploitation of our emotional reactions, with the most common rationalization for their outlandish actions being the ridiculous assertion, "We had no other choice."


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Mar 06, 2012 17:02 |  #188

canadave wrote in post #14036693 (external link)
To be completely accurate, 911 did not change our lives as we knew it in the West. It was how we reacted to it that changed our lives. We could have very easily said "we refuse to sacrifice the individual liberties we hold dear, even in the face of these kinds of attacks, in the name of more security." But we didn't. Whether you think that's a good thing or not is a question of opinion, but the fact is that we voluntarily chose our reaction to those attacks.

I see where you're coming from, but I don't think that your accurate. "We" are only individuals, "we" aren't in direct control of what "our" governments in the West deem necessary for "our" safety. Yes we can vote, but it's not much use when all sides of the political spectrum, regardless of what party is voted into power are for tightening security and a by product of heightened security usually means a loss of some freedom to a greater or lesser degree. So I don't think that "we" as individuals voluntarily chose "our" reaction to those terrorist attacks, it was chosen for us.


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