RhysPhotograph.Me Senior Member  504 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 14:58 | #1141  Permanent banmafoo wrote in post #14008495  really? What camera, shooting in Jpeg mode, does not apply NR to the images? My D700 seems extremely minimal in this regard.
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mafoo Goldmember  1,503 posts Likes: 2 Joined Dec 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 14:58 | #1142 ni$mo350 wrote in post #14008751 OK so I've been following this thread since the release last night and to be honest, I'm a bit confused as to what to do. I think I'm with the majority that the 5dii is a fantastic camera and despite the crappy AF, we still all made it work. There's no shortage of brilliant images out there from stills to action that have come from the 5dii. We adapted to the lack of AF with single center point so it's nice to see the 1Dx AF in it. On the other hand, I went through a lot of my images that I've shot with the 5dii over the last almost 2 years of owning it and I don't miss that much from the AF. A better AF is nice but it's not exactly something I can honestly say made me miss any shots of the time that I've owned it. The one thing that does stick out is IQ. We all know IQ on the 5dii is great but more mp isn't necessarily a must have for people who only print large. I edit a lot of my portrait work in great detail and comparing the half body sample images from the D800(e) and my 5dii is like night and day. The amount of detail that's there to work with is what's really interesting. It's not that the 5dii is bad, because I do love the shots I've captured with it, but it just isn't the best option for what I want and that's iq/detail. I don't shoot high ISO much anymore and even if when I do, I don't hesitate to shoot up to 3200 and rarely ever need to shoot higher than that. I don't mind the file size as most of us have computers and enough cards to handle most shoots without any issues. The new layout is nice minus the useless rate button which should be a custom set button to whatever you'd like. The new split review option is also very nice but not sure when I'd use it. When it comes down to it, I don't think the improved AF will make my success rate any better so why pay that much more for it? If I'm going to switch cameras, it'll be for the one thing I need which is more detail and more mp. Lastly, the price. $3500 is steep but it will come down in a few months to a manageable $3200 then you can throw in rebates. The grip does cost a lot but so does the Nikon equivalent. In my mind, I think the 5diii will be one of the best wedding camera's available but for landscape/portrait shooters and pixel peepers, the edge goes to the D800. It's funny how when the D800 came out I heard a lot of fan boys cry out, "good luck paying the premium on Nikon glass!". Well, seems like it just evened out a bit haha. I still love Canon and wished they came out with something to get me closer to a MF that I can use anywhere/anytime but looks like Nikon went that route. Seems like a lot of Nikon fan boys will switch to Canon and vice versa. It sucks to say it but I'm more than likely doing to be selling my gear and switching to the darkside not because I prefer one brand over the other, but because I prefer one's brand's specs over another. I do much prefer Canon glass though which is a real shame because I love my 35L and 70-200 mkii. Well, to be honest, after looking through your photos, I am not sure for what you shoot, why you would even be looking at new equipment. Your studio shots are amazing, and unless you print them very large, I doubt a D800 or a 5D Mk III will generate any better results. -Jeremy
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krb Cream of the Crop  8,818 posts Likes: 8 Joined Jun 2008 Location: Where southern efficiency and northern charm come together More info | Mar 02, 2012 14:59 | #1144 RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #14008792 My D700 seems extremely minimal in this regard. Shot with Raw + Jpg ISO 12800 partly because Nikon also cooks the raw files, a tactic that Canon is possibly using on this new body. -- Ken
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AngryCorgi -Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion  11,547 posts Likes: 7 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA... More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:00 | #1145 The foreground of the images (ISO100 top, ISO6400 bottom):  HOSTED PHOTO please log in to view hosted photos in full size. Yeah, I guess they shifted focus to...well...I'm not sure where...looks like the NR algorithm blurred EVERYTHING. So much for the focus-shifting-conspiracy-theory.  AngryCorgi
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RhysPhotograph.Me Senior Member 504 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:00 | #1146 Permanent banKenjiS wrote in post #14008791 Not sure if its been posted, but Kai has his hands on a 5DIII and posted samples from it.... Of Alamby (Thankfully) and at a variety of ISOs...using the 50mm f/1.2L as well 12,800 looks VERY nice, 6400 and below look good too... And i like how the skin tones and everything are.... 25,600 looks like it could be usable with some post processing, and 51,200 looks better than previous cams, but still not in the realm of usable http://www.digitalrev.com/album?id=2627543 Is there any of these samples that arn't low res?
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wookiee2cu Senior Member 614 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA. More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:00 | #1147 ni$mo350 wrote in post #14008751 Lastly, the price. $3500 is steep but it will come down in a few months to a manageable $3200 then you can throw in rebates. Don't know if I would count on that. The 5D MII launched in '09 with a body only price of $2,699, it now sales for $2,499 ($2,399 with a current $100 discount which ends some time in March). So in 3 years it has come down $200 and I don't think you'll see any rebates until Christmas time. The increase in the battery grip is lame but there are some new control buttons on there as well but I don't think it warrants 2x increase in price. I have my pre-order in and can't wait to get a hold of this thing. I'm coming from a 40D so for me it's a huge improvement so I may be a lot more excited about it than some of you.
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RhysPhotograph.Me Senior Member 504 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:01 | #1148 Permanent bankrb wrote in post #14008804 partly because Nikon also cooks the raw files, a tactic that Canon is possibly using on this new body. Maybe they do, but not that I can tell with a D700, images just get noisier but remain sharp, the same as the D800 samples I'v seen.
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop"  57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:02 | #1149 There's a tiny black dot on the rim of the ceramic cupcake that stays in focus through the entire gamut until it no longer resolves Vs noise. Jay
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AngryCorgi -Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion 11,547 posts Likes: 7 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA... More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:02 | #1150 We all should know (by now) that Canon nukes the luminosity noise. This isn't something new. The new G1X is doing the same thing at high ISO. Hairs melt together. This is why RAWs are preferrable. NR to taste is always the best way. Can we all agree? AngryCorgi
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AngryCorgi -Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion 11,547 posts Likes: 7 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA... More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:04 | #1151 RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #14008818 Maybe they do, but not that I can tell with a D700, images just get noisier but remain sharp, the same as the D800 samples I'v seen. The D300 on the other hand is terrible... The D300 is a terrible camera, totally, TOTALLY agree!! AngryCorgi
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:04 | #1152 AngryCorgi wrote in post #14008822 We all should know (by now) that Canon nukes the luminosity noise. This isn't something new. The new G1X is doing the same thing at high ISO. Hairs melt together. This is why RAWs are preferrable. NR to taste is always the best way. Can we all agree? I would agree with this... Jay
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mafoo Goldmember 1,503 posts Likes: 2 Joined Dec 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:05 | #1153 RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #14008792 My D700 seems extremely minimal in this regard. Shot with Raw + Jpg ISO 12800 100% Crop Raw I see quite a but of NR there. Look at the right side of the bears face. -Jeremy
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watt100 Cream of the Crop 14,021 posts Likes: 34 Joined Jun 2008 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:05 | #1154 RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #14008810 Is there any of these samples that arn't low res? I don't know but the ISO 25,600 samples are stunning
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palmor Senior Member  More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:05 | #1155 AngryCorgi wrote in post #14008822 We all should know (by now) that Canon nukes the luminosity noise. This isn't something new. The new G1X is doing the same thing at high ISO. Hairs melt together. This is why RAWs are preferrable. NR to taste is always the best way. Can we all agree?
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