In terms of ISO yes, completely, however Canon does it with it's crop bodies also, even in raw.
RhysPhotograph.Me Senior Member 504 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:06 | #1156 Permanent banIn terms of ISO yes, completely, however Canon does it with it's crop bodies also, even in raw.
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mafoo Goldmember 1,503 posts Likes: 2 Joined Dec 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:07 | #1157 AngryCorgi wrote in post #14008822 We all should know (by now) that Canon nukes the luminosity noise. This isn't something new. The new G1X is doing the same thing at high ISO. Hairs melt together. This is why RAWs are preferrable. NR to taste is always the best way. Can we all agree? Yep, I agree with you 100% -Jeremy
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brownmichael Member 164 posts Joined Sep 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon USA More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:07 | #1158 solara wrote in post #14008699 And as asked by someone else earlier, anyone know if it will have the ability to microadjust at both ends of a zoom like the 1DX? I've been combing through the reviews for that very item and have seen nothing yet. Anyone know for sure? A link to a review would be much appreciated! My current Canons: 5D, S90, 7D, 550D.
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RhysPhotograph.Me Senior Member 504 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:07 | #1159 Permanent banwatt100 wrote in post #14008841 I don't know but the ISO 25,600 samples are stunning http://www.digitalrev.com/photo_detail?id=2627550 Hard to tell at that res tbh...
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jonneymendoza Goldmember 3,794 posts Likes: 391 Joined Apr 2008 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:09 | #1160 Phillhdr wrote in post #14008619 Due to the price 3k in the uk, can't see many upgrading from the Mk11, in 12 months when the dust settles and prices drop, it might be a different thing. yea innit Canon 5dmkIII | Canon 85L 1.2 | Sigma 35mm ART 1.4|Canon 16-35mm L 2.8 |Canon 24-70mm L f2.8 | Canon 70-200mm F2.8L MK2 | Canon 430EX MK2 Flickr
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AngryCorgi -Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion 11,547 posts Likes: 7 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA... More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:10 | #1161 palmor wrote in post #14008843 Yup I agree.. this got lost about 200 pages back but the Canon in camera NR just leaves the images yuck ![]() ISO6400, 7d shot RAW+jpg so it is the same image earlier today. The jpg was shot with "standard" NR in camera ![]() Great example...exactly what I'm talking about. My XT, 30D, 1D2, and 5D all did the same thing too. This shouldn't be a frickin' newsflash to anyone. AngryCorgi
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KenjiS "Holy crap its long!" More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:10 | #1162 RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #14008856 Hard to tell at that res tbh... I disagree.... you can still get an overall impression of how the noise is going to look in most output sizes... Gear, New and Old! RAW Club Member
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ni$mo350 Cream of the Crop 6,011 posts Likes: 14 Joined Apr 2009 Location: Portland, OR More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:11 | #1163 mafoo wrote in post #14008796 Well, to be honest, after looking through your photos, I am not sure for what you shoot, why you would even are looking at new equipment. Your studio shots are amazing, and unless you print them very large, I doubt a D800 or a 5D Mk III will generate any better results. Amazing work man.. I am impressed. Thanks! I do print large every once in awhile for clients but that's mostly land/cityscape stuff. I guess the easiest way to put it would be if I'm going to upgrade to the D800 I'm going to get a weather sealed, +15MP, option for no AA filter, reliable and tested 51pt AF, great high ISO when needed and all that for $500 less than the 5diii. If I were to upgrade to the 5diii I would get +1mp, insane AF system that I probably won't even come close to pushing, +2fps faster, similar build quality that isn't fully weather sealed, possible heavy AA filter from the discussions earlier in the thread, and great high ISO when needed for $500 more than the D800. -Chris-Website
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ching Goldmember 1,370 posts Joined Apr 2010 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:12 | #1164 KenjiS wrote in post #14008885 I disagree.... you can still get an overall impression of how the noise is going to look in most output sizes... Pixel peeping is nice but sometimes it leaves you unable to view the larger picture... Color and contrast are still preserved at higher ISOs, and detail appears to be as well (Alamby looks nice and sharp) Because it's Alamby! Nikon D800
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umphotography grabbing their Johnson More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:12 | #1165 Erik S. Klein wrote in post #14008766 I'm honestly quite disappointed in the 5D3. Yes, it's a nice camera that is a significant upgrade from the 5D2 in almost all areas. In a vacuum that would be enough. Unfortunately for Canon they introduced this camera into the real world and not a vacuum. Their main competition just released a better device for less money. There is nothing compelling about the 5D3 in the market. The only thing it appears to do a little better than the D800 is frame rate and in almost all other areas it falls short (resolution, weather sealing, price...) Yes, those of us married to Canon via investment in lenses, etc. are going to stay but new buyers would be pretty foolish to chose the 5D3 over the cheaper and better D800. At least the 1Dx, in its space, is the clear leader with higher resolution, faster frame rate and so on. I ignored the 5D3 pre-order emails. My 1Dx pre-order stands... ![]() Got to agree with every word you said. Honestly, considering the 1DsMKIII was in the 7400.00 price bracket, the 1Dx is looking like a real bargain. Mike
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FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" 57,560 posts Likes: 178 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:13 | #1166 watt100 wrote in post #14008841 I don't know but the ISO 25,600 samples are stunning http://www.digitalrev.com/photo_detail?id=2627550 I for one am comforted to know I'll be able to shoot my unwilling assistant under harsh trade show light! Jay
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watt100 Cream of the Crop 14,021 posts Likes: 34 Joined Jun 2008 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:15 | #1168 FlyingPhotog wrote in post #14008912 I for one am comforted to know I'll be able to shoot my unwilling assistant under harsh trade show light! ![]() the ISO performance is so good you wont even need any extra lights
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mritchy Goldmember 2,091 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2009 Location: Dallas More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:16 | #1169 ni$mo350 wrote in post #14008897 Thanks! I do print large every once in awhile for clients but that's mostly land/cityscape stuff. I guess the easiest way to put it would be if I'm going to upgrade to the D800 I'm going to get a weather sealed, +15MP, option for no AA filter, reliable and tested 51pt AF, great high ISO when needed and all that for $500 less than the 5diii. If I were to upgrade to the 5diii I would get +1mp, insane AF system that I probably won't even come close to pushing, +2fps faster, similar build quality that isn't fully weather sealed, possible heavy AA filter from the discussions earlier in the thread, and great high ISO when needed for $500 more than the D800. So basically, do I want to spend $500 more and get 1 more mp and an AF that is so far beyond what I need for what I shoot or spend $500 less and get a completely new camera with 15 more mp to work with and a fully sealed body? On paper, the lead, for me anyways, goes to Nikon. Let's be honest though, most of us don't need to upgrade and it's an option between want and need. I need more mp to work with on detailed shots but I want a better AF. I would venture to say that you would be paying more, in the long run, for inferior glass with Nikon. I may be dead wrong, so please feel free to correct me, but it might be worth it to spend the extra $500 when you have glass that Nikon can't even touch. Mr. Itchy
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mafoo Goldmember 1,503 posts Likes: 2 Joined Dec 2011 More info | Mar 02, 2012 15:20 | #1170 ni$mo350 wrote in post #14008897 Thanks! I do print large every once in awhile for clients but that's mostly land/cityscape stuff. I guess the easiest way to put it would be if I'm going to upgrade to the D800 I'm going to get a weather sealed, +15MP, option for no AA filter, reliable and tested 51pt AF, great high ISO when needed and all that for $500 less than the 5diii. If I were to upgrade to the 5diii I would get +1mp, insane AF system that I probably won't even come close to pushing, +2fps faster, similar build quality that isn't fully weather sealed, possible heavy AA filter from the discussions earlier in the thread, and great high ISO when needed for $500 more than the D800. So basically, do I want to spend $500 more and get 1 more mp and an AF that is so far beyond what I need for what I shoot or spend $500 less and get a completely new camera with 15 more mp to work with and a fully sealed body? On paper, the lead, for me anyways, goes to Nikon. Let's be honest though, most of us don't need to upgrade and it's an option between want and need. I need more mp to work with on detailed shots but I want a better AF. Well, if you are used to shooting with the 5D2, then the Nikon AF will be far better then what you are used too (even if the Canon one turns out to be slightly better). -Jeremy
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