OFFICIAL: Canon 5D Mark III Announced

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #14008943
Like I said, if a new prosumer buyer is looking for a full frame and grabs the 5D3 over the D800 he should have his head examined...

I am inclined to agree that the D800E has some significant advantages over the 5D3, the 5D3 has some advantages as well.

1. If I prefer Canon lenses
2. If I prefer the 61 point af with 41 cross types over the Nikon's 51 af points with only 15 cross types
3. If I prefer the increase shooting speed

It isn't a clear victory for the D800E.

Here is a quote from dpreview regarding the digic 5+:

This may imply that a heavy AA filter is not needed for video.

Saxi wrote in post #14008989
I don't know, I've been hearing the D800 IQ isn't all that great for the specs.

Don't know how much better it needs to get tbh without being a phase one

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mafoo wrote in post #14008954
Well, if you are used to shooting with the 5D2, then the Nikon AF will be far better then what you are used too (even if the Canon one turns out to be slightly better).

If you are in the world where MF is what you should really be using (if one could afford it), then I personally think the Nikon D800E is about as close as one could currently get in the DSLR world.

Tuff choice, due to the cost to change. You need to change all your lighting too?

Very true, either camera will be huge step up in AF so I think that's a wash so when it comes down to it what's the biggest difference between the two? The mp. I would love to afford a MF setup but can't justify the cost so the D800 looks like a completely affordable solution. I'm adding a few more lights either way but I use Cactus V5's which I can use on either system.

The problem now is more about timing than anything else. I can't afford to have too much downtime waiting to sell items. I'll wait until the D800 is readily available to make that switch.

mritchy wrote in post #14008934
I would venture to say that you would be paying more, in the long run, for inferior glass with Nikon. I may be dead wrong, so please feel free to correct me, but it might be worth it to spend the extra $500 when you have glass that Nikon can't even touch.

dgrPhotos wrote in post #14008981
I bet you also think Nikon glass is more expensive than all Canon glass as well. At least that's common internet regurgitation for people without experience in the Nikon world.

Someone needs some 2012 update

themadman wrote in post #14009020
I am inclined to agree that the D800E has some significant advantages over the 5D3, the 5D3 has some advantages as well.

1. If I prefer Canon lenses
2. If I prefer the 61 point af with 41 cross types over the Nikon's 51 af points with only 15 cross types
3. If I prefer the increase shooting speed

It isn't a clear victory for the D800E.

Canon needed the cross-type. 7D cross-type is not nearly as impressive compares to D700 non-cross type.
It's the over all performance that counts not just who have the most points.

ching wrote in post #14009088
Someone needs some 2012 update
Canon needed the cross-type. 7D cross-type is not nearly as impressive compares to D700 non-cross type.
It's the over all performance that counts not just who have the most points

D3s has only 15 cross-type and that is by far the best AF system I've ever worked with. I never wished for more cross-type because of AF issues. They all just worked, even in the dark.

luigis wrote in post #14009000
Nikon made the logical evolution of the 5DII
Canon made the logical evolution of the D700
Oh the Irony!

(Not a Haiku!)

lol..Just what I was thinking!

ching wrote in post #14009088
Someone needs some 2012 update

Canon needed the cross-type. 7D cross-type is not nearly as impressive compares to D700 non-cross type.
It's the over all performance that counts not just who have the most points.

Both the D800 and 5D3 claim af sensitivity to -2EV so I am not sure if one needs it more than another.

luigis wrote in post #14009000
Nikon made the logical evolution of the 5DII
Canon made the logical evolution of the D700
Oh the Irony!

(Not a Haiku!)

Makes sense to me actually...

5D2 owners have been complaining about the 5D2 saying stuff like "stop the MP war, blah blah blah" so Canon makes something more like the D700.

I don't hang out with the Nikon community, but assuming they are like Canon users (aka the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side) they have been wanting a camera more like the 5D2

themadman wrote in post #14009137
Both the D800 and 5D3 claim af sensitivity to -2EV so I am not sure if one needs it more than another.

I can't help but think these spec's are BS, if I remember correctly the 5Dii is rated at -0.5 EV while th D3s D3 D700 was rated at -1EV, yet the D700 etc. can focus in much much darker light.

dgrPhotos wrote in post #14008981
I bet you also think Nikon glass is more expensive than all Canon glass as well. At least that's common internet regurgitation for people without experience in the Nikon world.

I didn't say that. I did a lens for lens comparison to see what it would cost for me to switch a few months back and it was in fact more expensive, and they don't have an AF 50 f/1.2, which is my bread and butter for weddings. You have no idea what I know, so don't make assumptions.

RhysPhotograph.Me wrote in post #14009151
I can't help but think these spec's are BS, if I remember correctly the 5Dii is rated at -0.5 EV while th D3s D3 D700 was rated at -1EV, yet the D700 etc. can focus in much much darker light.

I am not a camera engineer so I have no clue, maybe the difference between -0.5 and -1 is actually pretty big? (and again, the 5D2 only had one cross type)

dgrPhotos wrote in post #14009124
D3s has only 15 cross-type and that is by far the best AF system I've ever worked with. I never wished for more cross-type because of AF issues. They all just worked, even in the dark.

themadman wrote in post #14009137
Both the D800 and 5D3 claim af sensitivity to -2EV so I am not sure if one needs it more than another.

After certain numbers of AF points, it will be too cluster to navigate them from one end to the other. What matter is the AF accuracy and AF speed under harsh condition. Nikon one have been proven to work really well, I wish Canon step it up with 5D3 AF without removing stuff from 1DX AF

KenjiS wrote in post #14008998
FYI watch the video, he does a side by side between a 5DII and the 5DIII in it in the same conditions, Looking at it, the III pretty much blows the II away...

He says that 12,800 on the III is like 3200 on the II

Thats a pretty healthy improvement of 2 stops...

and 25,600 is better than 12,800 on the I or something

AngryCorgi wrote in post #14008966
I tend to favor the D800 over the 5D3, but I think your statement is going too far. The cameras each have distinct advantages/disadvantag​es and each person has the right to decide which are important without people telling them they need mental assistance.

Perhaps there was a little hyperbole there and you're right that everyone has a right to make their own decisions (about cameras and mental health both), but please point out which of Canon's advantage(s) is worth $500?