[5D Mark III] ONE BIG deal breaker for me! [Screens]

Staszek wrote in post #14004680
I don't think you're right Marlon. True the 7D does not have interchangeable focusing screens, but the 1Dx which has the same digital overlay viewfinder DOES. If Canon took what they did to the 1Dx, the 5D3 will have interchangeable focusing screens.

Only time will tell, as that is probably not at the top of the preview list for most right now.

GOD I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT

I've been a long time precision screen user since it was announced in the Canon EOS 40D. You can tell that it does use one when there is a notch at the top of the mirror housing as shown below on the following examples...

5D Mark I (PLEASE IGNORE THE ARROW)

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well there is a notch for something, rather than the flat edge.....

don't know what to truly make of it yet.

LOL

Marloon wrote in post #14004761
These Cameras DO NOT have the ability to have interchangeable screens:

30D

The 30D definitely had a replaceable screen...I had a Katz-Eyes split prism in mine.

Bob

just found this:

No Changeable screens, however no idea what their source is
http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/10906​96

Canon Bob wrote in post #14004811
The 30D definitely had a replaceable screen...I had a Katz-Eyes split prism in mine.

Bob

let's reiterate things...

it didn't have a OEM screen. katzeyes screen can be handy BUT they are not user friendly. Sending cameras of to CPS and installing/reinstallin​g third party screens is NOT fun IMO.

AND You could have problems with metering which even katzeyes warns you of.

KCY wrote in post #14004820
just found this:

No Changeable screens, however no idea what their source is
http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/10906​96

True that there is no source, but i am pretty sure that we all have to face this sometime. Maybe it's time to upgrade to the 1DX or MF... HMMMM... JK. That's $$$$$$ LOL

I was saving up for the 1Dx anyway - but if this is true, it's a rather puzzling state of affairs.

Marloon wrote in post #14004822
let's reiterate things...

it didn't have a OEM screen. katzeyes screen can be handy BUT they are not user friendly. Sending cameras of to CPS and installing/reinstallin​g third party screens is NOT fun IMO.

AND You could have problems with metering which even katzeyes warns you of.

Okay and sorry, clear on that now. It was a 5 minute job and not a send away task but the support frame had to be detached unlike the hinges on the 1Dsrs bodies.

Bob

Bad news (from the Canon USA product page):

Viewfinder

Type
Eye-level pentaprism

Coverage
Approx. 100% vertically and horizontally (At approx. 21mm eyepoint)

Magnification
Approx. 0.71x / Angle of view 34.1° (with 50mm lens at infinity, -1 m-1 (dpt))

Eye Point
Approx. 21mm (At -1m-1 from the eyepiece lens center)

Dioptric Adjustment Correction
-3.0 to +1.0m-1 (diopter)

Focusing Screen
Fixed

Mirror
Quick-return half mirror (transmission: reflectance ratio of 40:60)

Viewfinder Information
·AF information

AF point, focus confirmation, AF status indicator

·Exposure information

Shutter speed, aperture, ISO speed (always displayed), AE lock, exposure level, exposure warning

·Flash information

Flash ready, flash exposure compensation, high-speed sync, FE lock, red-eye reduction light

·Image information

Highlight tone priority (D+), maximum burst (2-digit display), card information

·Battery check

·Composition information

Grid, electronic level

·Warning symbol

Displayed if any of the following is set: Monochrome, white balance correction, One-touch recording quality switch, expanded ISO speed, or spot metering.

Depth Of Field Preview
Enabled with Depth-of-field preview button

Looks like Canon carried the fixed focusing screen over from the 7D. The 1Dx on the other hand shows an interchangeable focusing screen.

hmm... this is sort of a problem for almost all my glass lol

Marloon wrote in post #14004030
So what's the deal breaker?

It's the electronic viewfinder!

Like others have stated, the overlay for the focusing screen isn't the problem. You can still have interchangeable focusing screens and keep the overlay (the 1DX allows it). But I just don't know why canon doesn't allow it for the 5Dmkiii. It shouldn't be too hard to keep that feature (the menu options) in and have an easily accessible focusing screen.

I changed my focusing screen in my 7D, and I don't really want to go through that again. It's expensive, and I have to offset my EC when I look through the viewfinder (I also have to "re-adjust" it back when I use live view). Also, because my focusing screen is the K-3 type (like a katzeye), using some of the other metering modes (like spot metering) predictably is very difficult.

I just want a no-hassle, S-type focusing screen, w/ the menu option (so that I don't have to worry about metering).

But, I agree w/ you though...so many pluses, but that one big negative.

In the end, I'll wait and see (not like I can afford to get it soon anyway). Discussion in the other thread suggests that the AA filter may be just as strong as the one in the 7D, which means softer images out of camera. Also, need to see how the RAWs look, noise-wise. I don't think I'd consider this camera if it turns out that the image quality is worse than the 5D mk ii.

ohata0 wrote in post #14005368
Like others have stated, the overlay for the focusing screen isn't the problem. You can still have interchangeable focusing screens and keep the overlay (the 1DX allows it). But I just don't know why canon doesn't allow it for the 5Dmkiii. It shouldn't be too hard to keep that feature (the menu options) in and have an easily accessible focusing screen.

Its a price point thing. Canon has to retain some desirable features for the 1Dx.

You can pre-order it from B&H for ............... $3,400.00 ! ! !

Spec's here - http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …A002_EOS_5D_Mar​k_III.html

$3,400.00 ? ? ? ? ?

At about 1/2 that price my brand new 5DII is looking really good to me right now.