Do you believe Canon ACTUALLY merged the 1D and 1Ds line?

Can't help myself.

Do you believe the 1-series lines are actually merged? Have we seen the last of the 1Ds?

Ever since the announcement of the 1DX I feel like Canon has been pulling our legs with the comment about the merging of the 1-series lines. Now that the 5D3 is out, and is NOT the huge megapixel camera some of us thought it might be, it looks like there is still room in the lineup for a 1Ds replacement.

I have this growing feeling that we can still expect to see a 1DsX (or whatever it will be called) announced sometime this Fall.

I can't be alone with this thought.

If they did merge the two I would be very disappointed. I was expecting a huge jump in MP's in the new body.

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I agree with you on that. I am definitely a little disappointed. but I'm waffling between accepting the merge and believing there is more to come.

(the result from the poll is interesting. I guess most people do believe the merge).

I suspect that there is yet to be a high MP body on it's way. Maybe the 5DX or the 3D? I don't see a high MP 1D though.

gjl711 wrote in post #14019811
I suspect that there is yet to be a high MP body on it's way. Maybe the 5DX or the 3D? I don't see a high MP 1D though.

+1 on this. I think the 1D line is over.

I believe Canon think so now.

BUT...... They will rethink this once the panic of the Olympics is over and Japanese industry is back on its feet. They will have to.

Dunno why it's so hard to read...

The 1Ds series was simply getting too expensive, really limiting the volume. We can see that Nikon and Sony will be introducing very high MP bodies that are much more economically minded. Canon will have to do the same or loose serious market share.
Most of the advanced features will continue to be introduced in the 5D, 3D or whatever lineup, but without the more costly build requirements of the 1Ds series. For example the big battery grip can now be accessorized.
Mike K

From the POV that APS-H is dead, yes...

There may be a "Megapixelus Giganticus" some day but the original intent of a slightly smaller sensor to enable faster mechanics has gone the way of the DoDo Bird.

I agree that APS-H is probably dead. It appears faster FPS rates will be handled by more computing power and fewer megapixels, rather than a smaller physical sensor.

I think canon shot themselves in the foot.

Sports shooters and bird guys crave speed and reach. Sports guys who could get a lot done with a 300mm now have to go 400mm for the same FOV. The costs to upgrade and buy glass puts the majority of independents out of the business. I personally think thay will have no choice but to keep it (1.3) or something like it in place. 6000 to upgrade glass wont happen for the majority..corporate guys could care less. My guess is its probably something like 20:1 ratio with independents being the 20 figure

A 1.4X TC accomplishes the same thing for a lot less money. And, with cleaner ISOs, the loss of one stop is rendered meaningless.

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #14021352
A 1.4X TC accomplishes the same thing for a lot less money. And, with cleaner ISOs, the loss of one stop is rendered meaningless.

It does. But it also slows down the AF substantially. Definately noticible. Thats critical. Plus a 300 is very hand holdable and usable (especially the new 300f/2.8). Thats lets you have the freedom to move. You cant do that with a 400 F/2.8.....Im betting canon will change the game plan when the 300's stop selling. Independents make up a lot of the market. This moves kills it for many.

My 1.4X TC + 300mm f/2.8 is as nearly a seamless marriage as you're likely to find.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion if you've shot the combo and find it to be so, but if you're going by what you've read or been told, you're working under a false assumption.

I see no IQ hit and if AF is affected, it's so negligible as to be imperceptible.

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #14021414
My 1.4X TC + 300mm f/2.8 is as nearly a seamless marriage as you're likely to find.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion if you've shot the combo and find it to be so, but if you're going by what you've read or been told, you're working under a false assumption.

I see no IQ hit and if AF is affected, it's so negligible as to be imperceptible.

I didn't try it with a 300 F/2.8 ( rent it when i need it) but i did with a 300 F/4. Had the 300 F/4 for a while. I thought it slowed it down enough to be noticeable when I shoot eagles, especially in flight. I eventually sold it and have the 100-400 and have been very happy with the extra reach. (fov im over 475 so it really helps).

Not saying your wrong at all jay. I think my big gripe is FOV with a 300. the 1.3 format gets you at 400 which is nice. I guess no easy answers and there are trade offs at both ends