Tear it up

I did the edit on a calibrated monitor, right now I'm at work and I too can agree that both mine and QBX's edits look a little blown out on the fur on the right in IE 7 which is what we still use, but in Chrome 17.0.963.78, on my work laptop, it looks fine - on the calibrated monitor QBX's still looked a little "environmentally tinted" but not blown out and obviously neither did mine.

Laptop monitors are not the best for editing...

That is very interesting and I guess this brings up a whole new question about what exactly is the best computer to edit photos in, I currently have a very old Gateway laptop that i am using to edit all my photos, and I posted a few here in the critique corner from a boxing match to get some C&C on them but I'm looking to buy a brand new laptop that will have enough speed and memory to handle all my photo PP and edits with Lightroom 3 so where could I find info on the best laptops for photo editing and post processing??

Oh and TomO sorry but I did not mean to change the subject matter of your post and request for C&C, but now that we are seeing different things based on different computers it just got me wondering about that..

tmoore323 wrote in post #14057388
I did the edit on a calibrated monitor, right now I'm at work and I too can agree that both mine and QBX's edits look a little blown out on the fur on the right in IE 7 which is what we still use, but in Chrome 17.0.963.78, on my work laptop, it looks fine - on the calibrated monitor QBX's still looked a little "environmentally tinted" but not blown out and obviously neither did mine.

Laptop monitors are not the best for editing...

mpadula wrote in post #14057353
Tom,
I am viewing this at my work computer and I am also seeing the same problems with the edits that you are.. the edits by tmoore323 look very blown out, the first one looks almost bluish/gray and another one looks like it is to highly saturated or too much contrast. So I am not so sure it is only your laptop because I am seeing the same thing with the edits. To be totally honest I really like your photo and maybe just a little more lightening up on it as it looked just a tad dark but otherwise I think it looks awesome.

I wonder why I am also seeing the edits looking odd as well

tmoore323 wrote in post #14057388
I did the edit on a calibrated monitor, right now I'm at work and I too can agree that both mine and QBX's edits look a little blown out on the fur on the right in IE 7 which is what we still use, but in Chrome 17.0.963.78, on my work laptop, it looks fine - on the calibrated monitor QBX's still looked a little "environmentally tinted" but not blown out and obviously neither did mine.

Laptop monitors are not the best for editing...

And this is exactly why I asked.

I am pretty much stuck with the laptop for a while. I've got a partial house overhaul going on so there goes any "extra money". lol I may still try to calibrate it. I figure it cant hurt to try....

how about this? lol

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mpadula wrote in post #14057451
That is very interesting and I guess this brings up a whole new question about what exactly is the best computer to edit photos in, I currently have a very old Gateway laptop that i am using to edit all my photos, and I posted a few here in the critique corner from a boxing match to get some C&C on them but I'm looking to buy a brand new laptop that will have enough speed and memory to handle all my photo PP and edits with Lightroom 3 so where could I find info on the best laptops for photo editing and post processing??

Oh and TomO sorry but I did not mean to change the subject matter of your post and request for C&C, but now that we are seeing different things based on different computers it just got me wondering about that..

No worries. That what this board is for.... discussion.

Just to aid the analysis and discussion here is the orig vs edit with histograms.

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Qbx wrote in post #14059030
Just to aid the analysis and discussion here is the orig vs edit with histograms.

I can see the light! lol

I know I have my screen set bright.... obviously way too bright. I need to figure out a happy medium until I can get it properly calibrated. I may try and use the histogram to help me out with that.

Qbx wrote in post #14059030
Just to aid the analysis and discussion here is the orig vs edit with histograms.

Qbx, how do you get histograms for those areas? I shoot theater regularly and need that capability to analyze my pictures. My backgrounds normally goes to black so I'm always cranking in compensations factors of 2/3 to 2 so that I can get reasonable exposures on the subjects.

Qbx wrote in post #14055593
What's the environmental aspect & environmental portrait? When I think of those terms I think outdoors.

Environmental in the sense that it appears the same in the image as it does to the naked eye. If the subject is illuminated by a warm incandescent light, changing the white balance or color correcting in PP is removing that aspect. It really depends on what the photographer intends. Shooting a still life with the only illumination coming from a fireplace is going to create and entirely different effect than the same shot taken with full blown studio lighting or for that matter, even with a single flash.

Qbx wrote in post #14059030
Just to aid the analysis and discussion here is the orig vs edit with histograms.

I'm using calibrated monitors and the image to the right is obviously blown out. Much of the detail in the white areas has vanished.

cpam.pix wrote in post #14059827
Qbx, how do you get histograms for those areas? I shoot theater regularly and need that capability to analyze my pictures. My backgrounds normally goes to black so I'm always cranking in compensations factors of 2/3 to 2 so that I can get reasonable exposures on the subjects.

In photoshop click on Window then Histogram, then use the rectangular selection tool (or any selection tool you like) and the histogram will reflect what you selected.

Woolburr wrote in post #14060617
I'm using calibrated monitors and the image to the right is obviously blown out. Much of the detail in the white areas has vanished.

I see that the histogram on the right does show some minor blowout, and I can find it if I zoom in; but most of the white has detail on my screen. However I think I do have a brightness issue. I use a Thinkpad W700 laptop for editing and it has a built-in calibration which I am beginning to suspect is not too accurate.

I haven't calibrated it in a long time because I believed that LCD screens would not dim with age like CTR monitors. I will re-calibrate and see if that changes anything.

The problem I think we are seeing is that in the original, see below, that section of the fur is close to blown out already, so we need to take that into account when we edit...

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With a different crop...