I shoot in a lot of low light situations,raw, high iso, and get noise from time to time. I am think about getting some new software if I get lightroom4 do I also need a specific program for noise too like noise ninja?
RSBurton Member 192 posts Joined Sep 2010 Location: Chicago Area More info | Mar 07, 2012 23:46 | #1 I shoot in a lot of low light situations,raw, high iso, and get noise from time to time. I am think about getting some new software if I get lightroom4 do I also need a specific program for noise too like noise ninja? 7D / 28-135, Canon 50mm f/1.8, 85mm, Canon 24-70mm 2.8 I, 50-250mm IS, (3) 600ex-rt
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tonylong ...winded ![]() More info | Mar 08, 2012 00:27 | #2 I'd say that LR is plenty good for the vast majority of most photography. There are cases, though, when a "special" approach to noise reduction and sharpening can do nicely. Tony
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Todd Lambert I don't like titles ![]() More info | Mar 08, 2012 00:41 | #3 Lightroom is very good at handling noise... But the best I've found beyond that is Nik DFine. I used to use noise Ninja but have since switched.
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Mar 08, 2012 06:24 | #4 I have Noise Ninja but have rarely used it since LR3 came out. On the other hand, I don't really push the ISO on my camera all that often. I think the better way to get an answer is to see what results you get with LR with your own images. That's the acid test. Check out my photos at http://dkoretz.smugmug.com
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Mar 08, 2012 06:50 | #5 I have Imagenomic's Noiseware and I've only used it a handful of times since getting LR3. LR3 is really effective for the majority of my high ISO files. The Noiseware plugin for CS4 takes the lead when I want to selectively remove noise using layers. So if you're not going to get that crazy with it then LR4 should be enough. Canon: 5D Mark IV, EOS R, 35 f1.4L II, 85 f1.4L IS, 16-35 f4L IS, 24-70 f2.8L II, 70-200 f2.8L IS II, 100-400 f4.5-5.6L IS II, 100 f2.8L IS Macro, 2X III, 1.4X III, 580EX II, 430EX
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JonK Goldmember ![]() 2,161 posts Likes: 3 Joined Feb 2004 Location: PA USA More info | Mar 08, 2012 07:01 | #6 I have Noise Ninja and or Neat Image. Used to use it before LR was the main thing. I never tried LR2, so I had LR 3 when it came out. The noise reduction in LR 3 was more than enough that I don't even think I have my noise applications installed. Sure, they work, but the noise profiles are never perfect and you end up doing a lot of tweaking with a lot of settings. With LR3/4 it's easier than that - noise reduction amount on luminance and color. Done. Then you can clean it up with some sharpening. I honestly have not used any noise applications since going to LR3. 7NE | 7D | 5DII | 16-35/2.8L II | 24/1.4L II | TS-E 24/3.5L II | 50/1.4 | 85/1.2L II | 100/2.8L IS | 70-200/2.8L IS II | 400/5.6L | PIXMA Pro 9500 Mark II
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Thanks for the info and your opinions. 7D / 28-135, Canon 50mm f/1.8, 85mm, Canon 24-70mm 2.8 I, 50-250mm IS, (3) 600ex-rt
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aepoc Senior Member ![]() 438 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jun 2006 Location: Madison, WI More info | Mar 08, 2012 08:24 | #8 JonK wrote in post #14048607 ![]() One thing I would like to see is brushable noise reduction. Just like brushable white balance and such, I think it'd be handy to be able to brush in the noise reduction and use varying noise reduction amounts in different areas. You can do that in LR4 with the adjustment brush. Canon 7D+grip, 40D+grip, Canon 70-200 f/2.8L, Canon 60mm f/2.8, Canon 28mm f/1.8, Canon 35 f/1.4L, Canon 430ex flash, Canon 430ex II flash
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gnirtS Member 232 posts Joined Nov 2008 Location: South Wales for now More info | Mar 08, 2012 08:30 | #9 I use noiseware a lot (even if the company seems to have gone quiet of late). flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitcomberd/
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JonK Goldmember ![]() 2,161 posts Likes: 3 Joined Feb 2004 Location: PA USA More info | Mar 08, 2012 09:30 | #10 aepoc wrote in post #14048947 ![]() You can do that in LR4 with the adjustment brush. I don't see noise reduction in there with adjustment brush 7NE | 7D | 5DII | 16-35/2.8L II | 24/1.4L II | TS-E 24/3.5L II | 50/1.4 | 85/1.2L II | 100/2.8L IS | 70-200/2.8L IS II | 400/5.6L | PIXMA Pro 9500 Mark II
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Mar 08, 2012 10:31 | #11 JonK wrote in post #14049309 ![]() I don't see noise reduction in there with adjustment brush New feature in LR4 -- a slider simply labeled "Noise" with the adjustment brush. It's definitely there. Canon 60D | Canon 500D | Canon 430EX II | Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 | Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DC HSM 'A' | Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II | Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
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René Damkot Cream of the Crop ![]() 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | Mar 08, 2012 10:37 | #12 "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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JonK Goldmember ![]() 2,161 posts Likes: 3 Joined Feb 2004 Location: PA USA More info | Mar 08, 2012 15:08 | #13 Perhaps it is because I only have a JPEG to open
My catalogs only have "finished" products right now which are JPEGs here at work. Will check a raw tonight. 7NE | 7D | 5DII | 16-35/2.8L II | 24/1.4L II | TS-E 24/3.5L II | 50/1.4 | 85/1.2L II | 100/2.8L IS | 70-200/2.8L IS II | 400/5.6L | PIXMA Pro 9500 Mark II
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digital paradise "It takes a bit of work to get it in." ![]() More info | Mar 08, 2012 15:58 | #14 I have NIK's Dfine and Topaz DeNoise and 95% of the time I use ACR6 or Canons DPP. Much more ACR these days. Once I learned how to do it manually I prefer it. Besides when you do NR using ACR it takes seconds to sync the rest of the images. LR is the same. I just did some tests for local camera website the other day. DPP without NR DPP with NR - chrom = 18 & lum = 8 ACR no NR ACR with NR - Color = 25 & Lum = 30 Dfine on auto DeNoise on Auto Image Editing OK
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digital paradise "It takes a bit of work to get it in." ![]() More info | Mar 08, 2012 16:04 | #15 Tighter crops
DPP with NR ACR no NR
ACR with NR Dfine DeNoise
Image Editing OK
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