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Mar 10, 2012 22:39 |  #1

Glass with water drops 8 inches above white plate with coins.
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What do you think of the shot? How do I get the background to be in focus inside the bubbles? More or less distance between water and background? Focus on the reflection and not the bubbles themselves? Thanks.

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Here's one with a much smaller aperture. That and the distance between glass and background are they keys. The candy on the white plate is more in focus with the smaller aperture.

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Mar 12, 2012 00:32 |  #2

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Mar 12, 2012 00:35 |  #3
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love the first. colors are too dull in second


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Mar 12, 2012 13:00 |  #4

I believe you should be focusing on the reflection....

That second image shows some real promise.


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Mar 12, 2012 18:18 |  #5

Pixil Studio wrote in post #14070196 (external link)
kewl shots

OrangeImaging wrote in post #14070211 (external link)
love the first. colors are too dull in second

Thanks for the comments. I think I got the hang of it. A smaller aperture and a little more distance between the glass and the background seems to work.

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I believe you should be focusing on the reflection....

That second image shows some real promise.

Thanks....i think you are right. Thanks again for the comment.


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Mar 12, 2012 18:46 |  #6

I did one of these a few weeks ago using Reese's pieces as the background. I believe most of the how-to images were shown using a macro lens. I don't own one, so I decided to try it with my 50 f/1.8 instead. I manually focused, as auto-focus had a hard time focusing on the transparent water droplets and usually locking onto the candy instead. Exif data is intact, which show's I shot it at f/8. As much as I wiped down the table before hand, I am not sure how or where all the dust and specs came from but they are present nonetheless :(

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Mar 12, 2012 18:54 |  #7

That's a well done shot especially not having the advantages of a macro. Manual focus is needed. I never use AF with my macro lens.

I used "Rain-X" on my glass. It's used for car windshields so the rain will not stick.


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Mar 12, 2012 19:23 |  #8

Put a face under the glass - https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1049171


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Mar 12, 2012 22:51 |  #9

nate42nd wrote in post #14074561 (external link)
That's a well done shot especially not having the advantages of a macro. Manual focus is needed. I never use AF with my macro lens.

I used "Rain-X" on my glass. It's used for car windshields so the rain will not stick.

Thanks. Yeah, I did use Rain-X, which involved initially cleaning the glass, applying the Rain-X, removing the Rain-X haze by wiping it again, then re-cleaning the glass again. I also needed to spray a few times to get the drops of water the way I wanted them... After all that wiping of the glass, I was really surprised to see all the specs and particles still on the glass when it was said and done. You can't see them nearly as well on the low-res image I posted (though you certainly still can) but they are certainly more prevalent in the high-res version. :( Ohh well, I really only shot a few exposures of it; primarily wanting to attempt doing it just because I thought it looked neat. I'm sure I'll probably do it again later with something else down there... maybe I'll shoot tethered and make sure it's spotless next time :)


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Mar 12, 2012 22:56 |  #10

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Thanks. Yeah, I did use Rain-X, which involved initially cleaning the glass, applying the Rain-X, removing the Rain-X haze by wiping it again, then re-cleaning the glass again. I also needed to spray a few times to get the drops of water the way I wanted them... After all that wiping of the glass, I was really surprised to see all the specs and particles still on the glass when it was said and done. You can't see them nearly as well on the low-res image I posted (though you certainly still can) but they are certainly more prevalent in the high-res version. :( Ohh well, I really only shot a few exposures of it; primarily wanting to attempt doing it just because I thought it looked neat. I'm sure I'll probably do it again later with something else down there... maybe I'll shoot tethered and make sure it's spotless next time :)

It looks great. Just use the spot removal tool in Picasa, Lightroom, etc.... to remove the little specs. I did that with some of mine. It can help a lot. FYI I shoot RAW. If you don't.....I would give it a try. It makes all this a lot better with no loss of IQ.


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Mar 13, 2012 07:05 as a reply to  @ nate42nd's post |  #11

You cannot get the entire water droplet in focus with a single exposure, while maintaining adequate image size, as DOF is a limiting factor. Spend some time using "focus stacking" techniques.


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Mar 13, 2012 15:53 |  #12

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You cannot get the entire water droplet in focus with a single exposure, while maintaining adequate image size, as DOF is a limiting factor. Spend some time using "focus stacking" techniques.

Focus stacking would be the best way to make one of these look good. Good tip!


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