7d raw vs jpeg files

am i imagining things or are jpeg files much sharper right out of the camera?

is that because of in camera sharpening or ?

thanks for any input.

Yes. The jpeg is applying a level of sharpening (that you can set in the menu). The RAW is, well, raw.

dang i can't figure out how to replicate that for the raw files in aperture. I'm still working on learning this post processing thing.

Have you tried using DPP?

honestly no i haven't but maybe i will, Im familiar with aperture, but i just know there is more and i need to learn use all the features and stuff better to get the most out of it.

windpig wrote in post #14094649
Have you tried using DPP?

Not to hijack but I plead total ignorance on this subject. What is the advantage of using DPP?

yeah I'm wondering that also elrey.

Well, the sharpening Canon is using for the jpeg is pretty good quality algorithm (not a simple USM sharpening exercise). I can't get close to it in GIMP and I can barely match it in Darktable. So I gave up shooting Faithful or Neutral in jpg and go for custom, sharper settings. The RAW, when I choose to shoot it, I work extensively in Darktable.

The reason to try DPP is that it will replicate your in camera settings so that your RAW images will look like your jpeg. I'm not saying that's what you ultimately will want, but it gives you the sharpening that you like the camera doing to your jpgs.

It's a very easy program to use.

S.n.a.f.u. wrote in post #14094569
dang i can't figure out how to replicate that for the raw files in aperture. I'm still working on learning this post processing thing.

It's funny that you said that. I always thought the jpg's looked better than the RAW files no matter what I did in post processing.

windpig wrote in post #14094694
The reason to try DPP is that it will replicate your in camera settings so that your RAW images will look like your jpeg. I'm not saying that's what you ultimately will want, but it gives you the sharpening that you like the camera doing to your jpgs.

It's a very easy program to use.

can you take a raw file from DPP with the sharpening and what not applied and import it into aperture and not lose what DPP did? or am i stuff working the raw file and exporting a jpeg into aperture?

S.n.a.f.u. wrote in post #14094740
can you take a raw file from DPP with the sharpening and what not applied and import it into aperture and not lose what DPP did? or am i stuff working the raw file and exporting a jpeg into aperture?

If you want to do that, you can export it as a TIFF file (16-bit) and import the TIFF into aperture.

If you make changes in DPP, DPP is the only program that will read the settings...other programs will just ignore them (to my knowledge anyway)

I don't work with Aperture, but you should be able to do your basic RAW editing in DPP and export as a TIF file, then import it into Aperture.

If Aperature is going to be your editing program, for sure buy a book to learn how to do your basic editing like sharpening.

You really should be waiting to sharp to the last and doing it in the final image size.

thanks i really do need a book on aperture and one on basic work flow as i am still a editing dummy.