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Does this new 5d3 have an automatic sensor cleaning system like the 1d3 systems have?
Could be a selling point for me but then again.....

I think what is being said is.... Theres no substitute for having skill and a great eye.

MajesticMomentsPhoto wrote in post #14117688
@ smorter

http://www.petapixel.c​om …tirely-with-the-iphone-4/

"Would you rather have a great photographer shoot your wedding with an iPhone 4, or a mediocre photographer shoot using professional gear?"

interesting...

Can I hire the great photographer and let him use my 5d3? Its my wedding, I can't be the one holding the camera.

MajesticMomentsPhoto wrote in post #14117688
@ smorter

http://www.petapixel.c​om …tirely-with-the-iphone-4/

"Would you rather have a great photographer shoot your wedding with an iPhone 4, or a mediocre photographer shoot using professional gear?"

interesting...

I think the guys in the video are patronising, conceited, misguided spreaders of misinformation.

I have two key questions for them:

1. If the groom was so confident of the iphone, why did he have a pro with 2 DSLR's also photographing his wedding (visible at back of aisle at 0:53)

2. Where are the photos from the reception? Where the photos from indoors without the benefit of window lighting? Actually where are the photos from any setting other than outdoors or close to massive windows PERIOD?

They are full of it (rubbish).

So have I missed all those in-camera HDR results?

my name is always taken wrote in post #14117920
Does this new 5d3 have an automatic sensor cleaning system like the 1d3 systems have?
Could be a selling point for me but then again.....

Yes, it has an improved cleaning system.

"The EOS Integrated Cleaning System (EICS) was introduced on the EOS 400D in 2006 and works on three principles – to reduce dust generation; to repel dust sticking to the sensor; and to remove any dust that does stick. The system is not just mechanical. There is also a software element that works with Digital Photo Professional – the RAW processing software supplied free in the box when you purchase any Canon EOS camera.

The EOS 5D Mark III’s sensor uses a similar EOS Integrated Cleaning System to the 7D and EOS 5D Mark II – it includes a fluorine anti-static coating that helps prevent the sensor from attracting dust. In addition it also has a more efficient ultrasonic vibration that is more effective at shaking dust from the sensor than previous EICS systems."

sebr wrote in post #14117088
Came across these ISO tests http://www.flickr.com …h/sets/72157629​605182419/
Hope it has not been posted already.

Looking at the first picture at 102400 ISO and people already complaining in the comments about banding and noise. I mean...really?! You'd have to be desperate and then some before you'd set the ISO that high, and then to expect it NOT to have noise? Whatever, I'm not a professional photographer so maybe I dont know what Im talking about, but I can't understand why people are whining about completely understandable noise.

Seems like a lot of people don't realize that there is no such thing as SOOC unprocessed JPG files when you're interested in noise performance.

As soon as the camera makes a JPG, it is applying a NR filter on it (as well as sharpening and whatever else is configured for the picture style it was shot in) ... so even if you're shooting RAW+JPG, the RAWs will have much more noise in them than the JPG will. This is of course expected - but if you want to demonstrate the camera's noise performance, please shoot RAW and then take those RAW files and convert them directly to JPG on your PC using no post processing. That will show everyone what the camera really sees (minus some minor compression artifacts introduced by the JPG conversion)

mtavel wrote in post #14118487
Seems like a lot of people don't realize that there is no such thing as SOOC unprocessed JPG files when you're interested in noise performance.

As soon as the camera makes a JPG, it is applying a NR filter on it (as well as sharpening and whatever else is configured for the picture style it was shot in) ... so even if you're shooting RAW+JPG, the RAWs will have much more noise in them than the JPG will. This is of course expected - but if you want to demonstrate the camera's noise performance, please shoot RAW and then take those RAW files and convert them directly to JPG on your PC using no post processing. That will show everyone what the camera really sees (minus some minor compression artifacts introduced by the JPG conversion)

Precisely. The problem is that RAW conversions will be less than optimal from anything other than DPP (and possibly from DPP also) for some time, until the third-party RAW converters are tweaked for the Mark III. For example, I ran some of the Imaging Resource Mark III RAW files through Adobe's ACR 6.7rc and found that using anything more than minimal color noise reduction really smeared the red area of the sample image (the red cloth with leaves), which I had not expected. I do expect that updated ACR versions will do a much better job with the Mark III.

and the other question is when will these updates come. As much as I'm excited to get a 5Diii and try it out, I'm a LR guy, so having to either DNG convert or use ACR again, will be a massive PITA, and that's before I factor in the part about their conversions not being "tuned" just yet. I wonder when we'll see and ACR update and or the LR update....

mtavel wrote in post #14118487
Seems like a lot of people don't realize that there is no such thing as SOOC unprocessed JPG files when you're interested in noise performance.

As soon as the camera makes a JPG, it is applying a NR filter on it (as well as sharpening and whatever else is configured for the picture style it was shot in) ... so even if you're shooting RAW+JPG, the RAWs will have much more noise in them than the JPG will. This is of course expected - but if you want to demonstrate the camera's noise performance, please shoot RAW and then take those RAW files and convert them directly to JPG on your PC using no post processing. That will show everyone what the camera really sees (minus some minor compression artifacts introduced by the JPG conversion)

True

Furthermore, a lot of people post RAW's with "no PP".

The problem is most RAW converters including DPP and LR set default amounts of NR even if you don't touch the file

You literally have to manually change the settings to 0,0

mtavel wrote in post #14118487
Seems like a lot of people don't realize that there is no such thing as SOOC unprocessed JPG files when you're interested in noise performance.

As soon as the camera makes a JPG, it is applying a NR filter on it (as well as sharpening and whatever else is configured for the picture style it was shot in) ... so even if you're shooting RAW+JPG, the RAWs will have much more noise in them than the JPG will. This is of course expected - but if you want to demonstrate the camera's noise performance, please shoot RAW and then take those RAW files and convert them directly to JPG on your PC using no post processing. That will show everyone what the camera really sees (minus some minor compression artifacts introduced by the JPG conversion)

I confirmed the JPG NR yesterday in my 60D shot at ISO6400.

I'd also add that both the in-camera NR and sharpening are done at least as well as I can do at my best... So I think it is worth shooting RAW+JPG... who knows, in a difficult situation, maybe Canon knows better.

Full photo:

Pekka wrote in post #14118353
Yes, it has an improved cleaning system.

"The EOS Integrated Cleaning System (EICS) was introduced on the EOS 400D in 2006 and works on three principles – to reduce dust generation; to repel dust sticking to the sensor; and to remove any dust that does stick. The system is not just mechanical. There is also a software element that works with Digital Photo Professional – the RAW processing software supplied free in the box when you purchase any Canon EOS camera.

The EOS 5D Mark III’s sensor uses a similar EOS Integrated Cleaning System to the 7D and EOS 5D Mark II – it includes a fluorine anti-static coating that helps prevent the sensor from attracting dust. In addition it also has a more efficient ultrasonic vibration that is more effective at shaking dust from the sensor than previous EICS systems."

Very good to know! Thank you

Christian

What I would like to know is how well the new AF works - is it good enough for moving targets? And how does the AF fare in darker conditions?

And someone shoot something red, such as a rose... does this camera still clip the red channel???

EDIT: No worries, I'll take my own pictures of red stuff tomorrow