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Mar 22, 2012 18:19 |  #766

treblekicker wrote in post #14131845 (external link)
Some of the camera's features are great, like the level, while others seem to be designed to address shortcomings in the imaging technology, such as in-camera HDR to compensate for lack of dynamic range. The new menus are much cleaner, but there quite a few options to dig into, and less custom functions.

Is there a lack of dynamic range relative to other cameras? Dynamic range limitations relative to quality film are one of the biggest "problems" Digital cameras have. If all cameras can benefit from a certain feature does this make it compensation to have that feature, or just a feature?

According to the manual I believe their are only a few more custom functions than the 5d2, but it sure seems like the new functions are extremely functional, unlike many of the old functions. I especially like the ability to unlock ISO if you want. Combined with the big increase in high ISO useability this should make those settings a much more viable option. No more being tied to ISO 400.

The auto-focus seems much faster and more customizable, but it might be too soon to pass judgement on it. Initial shots show a high number of missed focus shots in low-light (which is how I usually shoot, check my contributions to the 24L and 50L image threads), with perhaps a slightly greater number of keepers compared to the 5dII. I wasn't blown away by this, but as I said, I'll need more time to really dig into the autofocus. AI Servo does seem improved though.

Have you tested non-centerpoint focus on the 5d2 against similar points on the 5d3 in low light? I would be curious to know if that is just a little better or a lot better in your estimation.... Because I know with my 5d2 I don't even bother using anything but center point focus for low light situations since the keeper rate is just too low.

The image quality is the biggest disappointment for me. This is the first Canon camera I have personally bought that doesn't offer an image quality upgrade from the previous generation. Now, the 5d II has had three years of work put into converting its RAW files, so I hope and expect the 5d III to improve here over time. That said, right now, there doesn't seem to be very much difference at all image quality wise when using ACR 6.7 beta. This is a real change, as I've always considered the 5d line to have excellent image quality, and have seen them improve from generation to generation.

With the already great image quality of the 5d2 and the minimal increase in pixels on the 5d3 I wasn't expecting any real low-ISO IQ improvement. What I am hoping for when I get mine is massive high-ISO IQ improvement. All testing I have seen indicates this should be the case. The benefit of a broader useable ISO range is obviously a massive increase in flexibility. Being able to shoot at 12800 indoors without a flash instead of 3200 translates to more depth of field and/or faster shutter speed. Given that I often shoot my very active 3-year-old in the house I will take a full stop of both please!


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Mar 22, 2012 18:48 |  #767

ahendarman wrote in post #14134852 (external link)
Anyone know if the BG-E6 fits into 5D3?

Nope, the 5D2 has a hole in the bottom plate and the BG-E6 has a pin that goes in that hole. The 5D3 does not have that hole. I wonder if you cut the pin out if it would work .... :)


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Mar 22, 2012 19:11 |  #768

Christina.DazzleByDesi​gn wrote in post #14134527 (external link)
I'm just thrilled it came in on the day Henry's said it would. Considering I didnt pre-order it on the 2nd (like everyone else, lol - I actually went last week and put a pre order down) Im surprised Im getting one from the first shipment :D

With Henry's I'm not surprised. They can be not the nicest to deal with. I tried to call them on Tuesday and was told that they were not shipping until mid April, could not confirm the price, nor give me confirmation that my pre-order was even in the system.

I said bugger the unknown and ordered from Crutchfield when they had them in stock on Tuesday. Mine is waiting for me in Lewiston and I'll venture down and pick it up on the weekend.

Glad that you had better luck with Henry's than I did. Perhaps the Ottawa staff know what they are doing better than the TO idiots.


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Mar 22, 2012 19:17 |  #769

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Mar 22, 2012 19:57 |  #770

Any input on metering? Is it comparable to a 1 series or more like 7D?


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Mar 22, 2012 20:07 |  #771

I find the metering MUCH improved over the 5D2 and a little better the 7D... I have been using 0 EC with great results so far, indoors and out. Working very well. No experience with 1D series though.

For those high ISO fans out there... Here is a 51,200 shot for you... Shot with my 135L at f/2... Locked right on focus... f/2 at ISO 51,200 and only SS of 1/80th... VERY dark.

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Mar 22, 2012 20:09 |  #772

Invertalon wrote in post #14135822 (external link)
I find the metering MUCH improved over the 5D2 and a little better the 7D... I have been using 0 EC with great results so far, indoors and out. Working very well. No experience with 1D series though.

For those high ISO fans out there... Here is a 51,200 shot for you... Shot with my 135L at f/2... Locked right on focus... f/2 at ISO 51,200 and only SS of 1/80th... VERY dark.

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Is this jpg? Any banding? Looks like a lot of NR applied.... But then again it's 51200. Hahah


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Mar 22, 2012 20:15 |  #773

Everyone who has a 5D3 should turn off in-camera NR completely, and apply no more than 25 NR in Lightroom or whatever RAW editor they use, otherwise these tests are meaningless.

If we were up to me I'd be posting some daytime low-ISO shots, we've seen enough high ISO stuff :D




  
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Mar 22, 2012 20:15 |  #774

From RAW... No banding (even pushing shadows)... Minimal NR applied, like 25 on the slider or something in CS5. Light sharpening.

JPEG looked about the same, honestly.


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Mar 22, 2012 20:18 |  #775

Invertalon wrote in post #14135876 (external link)
From RAW... No banding (even pushing shadows)... Minimal NR applied, like 25 on the slider or something in CS5. Light sharpening.

JPEG looked about the same, honestly.

Nice! Can't wait till mine comes. I especially want to do some af testing. I've been deprived of taking good pics of my dog running. :cool:


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Mar 22, 2012 20:23 |  #776

Here is my dog using servo with the AF expansion (the 7 pt one)... Not sure on case settings. ISO 1600 - 135L at f/2 - SS of 1/2000.

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Mar 22, 2012 20:28 |  #777

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Unique Photo in NJ. I put my name on their list Tuesday to hold a camera when I got an email saying they would have the camera Wednesday. I was told last night I would most likey see the camera next week. I sold my 5DII today and during the in person transaction, I got a call from Unique telling me my camera would ship Thursday late in the afternoon.:cool:

They have the camera/kit for sale to anyone, and the body only to people on the list as of now.


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Mar 22, 2012 20:29 |  #778

ahendarman wrote in post #14134852 (external link)
Anyone know if the BG-E6 fits into 5D3?

The new grip has a joystick controller so there's probably a completely different pin layout and/or communication protocol.


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Mar 22, 2012 20:39 as a reply to  @ krb's post |  #779

AF is looking very good, good image quality overall. but I am just not impressed with the fine detail, hardly any improvement over the Mark II which has a 3.5 year-old sensor.


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Mar 22, 2012 20:41 |  #780

But honestly, how much better do you expect? The 5D2 had amazing IQ, as does the 5D3. It improves in many other area's though. ISO performance, lack of banding at high ISO (and I have seen none at low ISO yet... Just took an 8 second exposure and pushed fill to 100% and nothing). Going to test more of the ISO 100 though.. Not sure how to get all the banding so people can fight over it :p

To me, that is IQ improvement.


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