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Mar 22, 2012 22:24 |  #811

kevindar wrote in post #14136594 (external link)
Saxi, it primarily matters if you are printing large. its in the reproduction of detail. now to realise that extra detail, one needs to have good dof, excellent technique with a very steady tripod. however under perfect condition, in a detailed scence, at say 30x20, or 36x24 inches print, the 36mp will produce more detailed print than 23 mp.

I agree with your comments Kevin. You and I can appreciate more resolution. :) Also, your landscape work is always impressive. :cool:




  
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Mar 22, 2012 22:25 |  #812

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Yes they would. It gives you an on-screen idea of what your final shot will look like when you HDR the same Raws later on. Useful to make sure you are getting the shot just right while in the field.

Also I honestly don't see why the occasional in-camera result would not be totally acceptable as a final product. As a matter of fact people that really know what they are doing might love to use it for the final product to save processing time so they can spend more time in the field. If you get the shot right, and your final product is a jpeg you give to the client or otherwise upload/sell/etc, then if you nail the shot on sight why not let the camera do the HDR work for you?

Arentol, b/c the camera is very unlikely to get it right. the camera will follow one simple algorythm, depending on the preset that you use. Using photomatix, and using the preset in the software, and my own multiple presets, I can tell you that I am just about never happy with the results without further processing. Now one may argue, well maybe the jpeg is a good starting point, which it isnot, b/c its 8 bit. Not to say, there are not casual handheld shooting that I may not play with the HDR, but not Landscape.
The absolute only way that I can see the HDR being useful, is if the camera is very smart and does not default to even bracketting, and metters well for both highlight and shadows, so that you end up with 3 raw files which better and more accurately cover your dynamic range (2, 0, -2 for example is not always the best bet), allowing you for better layering afterwards.


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Mar 22, 2012 22:25 |  #813

I cant wait to see portraits of people being taken with this thing. This thing looks extremely digital, might have to tone the sharpness down somehow for those of us hoping to get a film quality out of it.




  
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Mar 22, 2012 22:26 |  #814

Can't landscapers stitch to make larger prints possible?




  
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Mar 22, 2012 22:27 |  #815

Well, thank you Julian.
I will be getting mine on Monday or Tuesday. Still not sure if its the righ move (the money could have gone to a zeiss 21 plus a tse 17, or a trip). Any news on your D800E? do they have estimated shipping dates?


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Mar 22, 2012 22:31 |  #816

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Can't landscapers stitch to make larger prints possible?

Chet, absolutely. However, not every scene lends itsel well to stitching. If you have to then also do multiple exposures for increased dynamic range, you are looking at every shots x3 at least. also things such as parallex issues and lens distortion can make it more difficult to stitch, not to mention if your lens is not completely level with horizon and you are using a wide lens. Yeah, it works, but its a lot more work, and many times cant be done.


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Mar 22, 2012 22:32 |  #817

kevindar wrote in post #14136664 (external link)
Chet, absolutely. However, not every scene lends itsel well to stitching. If you have to then also do multiple exposures for increased dynamic range, you are looking at every shots x3 at least. also things such as paralles issues and lens distortion can make it more difficult to stitch. Yeah, it works, but its a lot more work, and many times cant be done.

Thanks for the explanation.




  
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Mar 22, 2012 22:39 |  #818

Ok, here's that 100% crop from Flickr, in the hope it shows better than Photobucket. I touched this up in Lightroom with some sharpening, vibrance, clarity, but no noise reduction.

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Mar 22, 2012 22:39 |  #819

Any idea when Lightroom will have an update for this body?


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Mar 22, 2012 22:47 |  #820

it usually takes adobe a few weeks to get new updates out. both the 5DMIII and D800 are out so hopefully there will be an update soon. I've found that light room does a much better job processing raw than PS so I'm looking forward to the up date (plus the new highlight and shadow sliders are SO much better and less destructive than the fill light slider). On a side note the beta for PSCS6 is out and I noticed that they have also added the highlight and shadow sliders to the raw developer so it will be interesting to see if it's as good as Lightroom 4.




  
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Mar 22, 2012 22:48 |  #821

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Question: is there an option to assign which file format to the memory cards? Like RAW for CF and Video for SD?

Anyone answer this? ... :confused:




  
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Mar 22, 2012 22:48 |  #822

yeah, ps6 beta includes acr 7, which Ironically does not recognize the files from 5d3.


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Mar 22, 2012 22:52 |  #823

the latest acr is a beta




  
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Mar 22, 2012 22:58 as a reply to  @ kevindar's post |  #824

Anyone planning to post any pictures at ISO 100? Everyone seems to be only posting pictures showing what it can do at the highest end of the ISO range.
I would love to see the very best this camera can offer.
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Mar 22, 2012 23:11 |  #825

MatthewK wrote in post #14136708 (external link)
Ok, here's that 100% crop from Flickr, in the hope it shows better than Photobucket. I touched this up in Lightroom with some sharpening, vibrance, clarity, but no noise reduction.

Sharpening must have brought out the noise a bit--looks a bit noisy for 1600. What sharpening settings did you apply?




  
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