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Mar 21, 2012 06:11 |  #1

My first bear with a 7D, 300mm F/4L + 1.4TC. Handheld and set on spot metering so as to not underexpose Bear. I'm an amateur, especially with the 7D, and would like it if someone could tell me whether or not center weighted metering would have made the rest of the pic not so overexposed without losing contrast in the bear. Cropped off about 50%.
Thanks for looking. Advice more than welcomed.

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Mar 21, 2012 06:21 |  #2

Black and lighter colors will do this, your camera is not designed to overcome the issue.

These are very good images considering it looks like you shot them when the sun is higher in the sky.
If you are concerned, it looks like you can lower the exposure in the lighter parts of the image fairly easily if you do some processing.
Great images though - and that is a large bear for Jersey.


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Mar 21, 2012 06:32 |  #3

Thanks pbelarge. It was on my way back out around noon. I know I should be shooting in raw (and have to learn PP in raw), if I adjust the jpeg anymore I begin to blacken out the fur. I can live with the overexposed background.




  
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Mar 21, 2012 08:51 |  #4

nice shot..those must be flys buzzing around him? your braver then me to get a pic of a bear.. LOL
How many feet away were you even with the 1.4TC?




  
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Mar 21, 2012 12:09 |  #5

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nice shot..those must be flys buzzing around him? your braver then me to get a pic of a bear.. LOL
How many feet away were you even with the 1.4TC?

They were clouds of knats. I was about 100ft on the other side of a foot deep of water. The wind was right, and I had good cover behind me, so I was able to walk along for 20 minutes and get ahead of the bear a few times. It looked at me a few times and checked the air, but didn't see me. I was hoping my last shot wasn't one of the bear charging through the water, although it would have been a cool shot.




  
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Mar 22, 2012 16:05 |  #6

I agree with Pierre
Now, if you do some post processing you can balance the photo even better.
Nice capture.
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Mar 22, 2012 19:10 |  #7

Nice shots! That is one BIG black bear.




  
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Mar 23, 2012 08:06 as a reply to  @ CRobH's post |  #8

I hope to get some shots like that. was that at the national recreational area in Delaware water gap


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Mar 23, 2012 10:10 |  #9

very nicely done, hard shot to get and you got two of them.




  
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Mar 24, 2012 19:11 |  #10

Fishbreath wrote in post #14138288 (external link)
I hope to get some shots like that. was that at the national recreational area in Delaware water gap

Thanks everyone for your replies!
It was on the Wallkill River Refuge's duck trail, Rt565, 100yds north of rt 23.
There's so many bear around here. They are often in my yard, mostly at night. Two tried to make a den under my brush pile last winter. Last fall I had close encounters nearly every day while bowhunting. I had a few follow my sent to the tree I was in. I'm going to hunt from a ground blind this year and bring the camera.




  
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Mar 25, 2012 09:16 |  #11

Shot4u2 wrote in post #14147020 (external link)
Thanks everyone for your replies!
It was on the Wallkill River Refuge's duck trail, Rt565, 100yds north of rt 23.
There's so many bear around here. They are often in my yard, mostly at night. Two tried to make a den under my brush pile last winter. Last fall I had close encounters nearly every day while bowhunting. I had a few follow my sent to the tree I was in. I'm going to hunt from a ground blind this year and bring the camera.

we go to the chatterbox drive-in then usally head north on rt.23 to high point state park. Nice roads for the bikes. never took 23 south or is that east.


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Mar 26, 2012 16:18 |  #12

nice shots even if you complain about exposure. Everything i fine, details are there. Good.


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Mar 26, 2012 16:31 |  #13

Great shot. And, yes, something like that is going to be tough to expose well, but it looks like you did an admirable job. The meter (spot mode or otherwise) is looking for 18% gray (or is it 12%, I've read both). Your bear is quite a bit darker than that. So in spot mode, the meter would tend to over expose (trying to make that bear gray). In Evaluative, the black bear would likely be the darkest thing in the frame, so you would likely get an under exposed shot. Your shot (with the background seeming a little over exposed, but showing good, but very dark detail in the bear) is really good; it is the compromise I would seek. Even a little darker, and the detail would begin to disappear like it already is on his chest under his chin and his shady side.

Your report of numerous bears in Norther NJ makes me both glad and a little anxious. When I go for walks in the woods, I normally let my kids (and small dog) run ahead. And though I know in my head that black bear are generally docile and not much interested in people, I think that knowledge would be quickly forgotten if I were to come face-to-face..


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Mar 26, 2012 19:08 |  #14

Thanks Harry.
I was charged once, then it followed me for a mile back to my truck. Also had one 10yds away chattering his teeth when I was packing up my treestand in the dark. They're not afraid of humans yet, even after a few years of being hunted. I've never had one run from me, they walk away, if I don't back off first. If your kids make noise, they should be OK. The bear will most likely stay out of sight if they know you are coming.




  
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Mar 26, 2012 19:30 |  #15

Fishbreath wrote in post #14149412 (external link)
we go to the chatterbox drive-in then usally head north on rt.23 to high point state park. Nice roads for the bikes. never took 23 south or is that east.

South, but it does go nw to se. You most likely go out to the sussex inn and head north. That's my town. I've been over H.P. Mt many times on my bike(pedaling). Hit 54mph coming down the Jersey side. I take it you go thru Port Jervis and over the Hawks nest along the Deleware. Nice ride. I've done it with my wife on the tandem. We had a group of bikers pass us, then we passed their bikes at a bar. A couple hrs later we passed the bar heading back, and the bikes were still there, LOL. They passed us again on a long climb on their way back, and I'll never forget each one of them soluting us.
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