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Mar 24, 2012 10:30 |  #1

Update : 03/4

Today, one US store (J&R) stopped shipping Canon products to Canada, citing "manufacturer restrictions". Is this a sign of more unfortunate things to come?


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PhotoPrice.ca Silenced by Canon

March 24th, 2012
Dear PhotoPrice.ca users,
Over the last five years, we've been proud to help Canadians find the lowest prices on camera equipment, considering sources from both the US and Canada. But today we have been silenced by Canon -- we're forced to remove the largest (and cheapest) US store from our Canon product price comparisons.
Canon no longer wants US stores to market to Canada. Why? Most Canon products (most lenses) are still priced higher in Canada, and they would rather Canadians buy from the local distribution chain. I'm all for supporting local retailers, but it is the competitive pressure from the US (same product, same warranty) that keeps both stores and Canon Canada honest in their pricing. Over the last five years, we've seen the average pricing gap between US and Canadian pricing shrink from 19% down to 3%. Could this have been due to pressure from sites like PhotoPrice.ca (external link)?
Because US stores are no longer allowed to advertise Canon products to Canadians, some stores have asked us to remove all of their Canon products from our listings. Unfortunately, when they ask, we must comply, as the alternative would lead to the shutdown of our site. These US stores still sell and ship to Canadians. We're just not allowed to tell you about it, or compare their prices. Not only are we unable to show you the best price listings, we also take a large financial hit as those listings generate revenue that support and pay for this website.
I feel strongly that all Canadians should have the right to choose where to buy, and we shouldn't let ourselves be blindfolded by large multinational corporations trying to optimize their global profit.
I welcome your comments below, and appreciate your continuing support.
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Sites have to remove the US sites from prices comparison yet they(US sites) can still sell to Canadians .


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Mar 24, 2012 10:35 |  #2

Why would their site have to shut down if they don't comply?


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Mar 24, 2012 10:42 |  #3

Sirrith wrote in post #14144899 (external link)
Why would their site have to shut down if they don't comply?

Probably related to the outrageous price of maple syrup. If our good neighbors to the north would simply price this commodity at a price - say, similar to gasoline - these things wouldn't happen. ;)




  
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Mar 24, 2012 11:14 |  #4

Sirrith wrote in post #14144899 (external link)
Why would their site have to shut down if they don't comply?

from photoprice FB page

Photoprice.ca : Canon has power over the retailers. The retailers can tell me at any time that they don't want me to list them anymore. Since I get my pricing data from the retailers, I must comply...


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Mar 24, 2012 11:26 as a reply to  @ Mitch.A's post |  #5

Would be interesting to know if Canon is the only "villain" in this situation, or whether they are flexing their muscle because of complaints from Canadian retailers about unfair competitive advantages?


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Mar 24, 2012 14:42 |  #6

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Hmm... I would have thought the retailers would have no say at all. They post their prices up on the internet for everyone to see, I wouldn't have thought they'd have any power at all to stop people from simply reposting them elsewhere.


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Mar 24, 2012 14:45 |  #7

Thomas : that's what the owner said in reply to a similar question :

PhotoPrice.ca Hi Kyle, I mentioned a few posts ago: I get all my pricing data from the retailers themselves, and its been withheld for some products. Yes, I could "go rogue" and fetch/post prices regardless, but that would jeopardize the retailers and force them to cut ties completely with me. I don't want to go down that road right now.

Would be interesting to know if Canon is the only "villain" in this situation, or whether they are flexing their muscle because of complaints from Canadian retailers about unfair competitive advantages?

IMO , both had a hand in it but i really want to know the mark up (%) they each make on the equipment sold in Canada .


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Mar 24, 2012 14:51 |  #8

Sirrith wrote in post #14145885 (external link)
Hmm... I would have thought the retailers would have no say at all. They post their prices up on the internet for everyone to see, I wouldn't have thought they'd have any power at all to stop people from simply reposting them elsewhere.

I agree. Maybe there is legal standing with regard to linking to the product page, but just showing the advertised price.. that's public content. I'm sure some Canadian retailers have whined to Canon Canada, but still.. they could pick up some sales from this site; it is afterall, a form of advertisement.


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Mar 24, 2012 19:36 |  #9

It sounds like something the Islamic Republic of Iran or the People's Democratic Republic of Korea would do :rolleyes:

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Mar 24, 2012 20:13 |  #10

Everything is more expensive in Canada...look at vehicles...often 25% higher for the same vehicle.


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Mar 24, 2012 20:38 |  #11

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Everything is more expensive in Canada...look at vehicles...often 25% higher for the same vehicle.

So what ? Just because an item is more expensive doesn't mean everything else needs to follow suit. Just saying...


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Mar 24, 2012 21:11 |  #12

av8r wrote in post #14147298 (external link)
Everything is more expensive in Canada...look at vehicles...often 25% higher for the same vehicle.

It's the "bullying" tactics that Canon is using, that bothers me.


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Mar 24, 2012 21:12 |  #13

SBK1 wrote in post #14147410 (external link)
So what ? Just because an item is more expensive doesn't mean everything else needs to follow suit. Just saying...

If people didn't pay the prices...the prices wouldn't stay higher. It's as simple as that.


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Mar 24, 2012 21:13 |  #14

1Tanker wrote in post #14147553 (external link)
It's the "bullying" tactics that Canon is using, that bothers me.

See my other comment...Canon can't "bully" anyone that doesn't want to be bullied.


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Mar 24, 2012 21:35 as a reply to  @ av8r's post |  #15

don't compare gas prices $130.00 to fill in Canada $90.00 in USA .Exchange is almost even .


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