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Removing the flash from the eyes

 
imranali
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Mar 27, 2012 21:24 |  #1

Hello,

I'm looking for some advice on how to remove the reflection of the flash from the eyes when using strobes/softboxes etc.

I've tried to clone on a 25% strength but the pupil looks too dark and stands out.

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I've sorta done it with the light/dark clone stamp but its blurred any good detail out of the iris.

Anyone have any advice/tutorial for this sort of thing?

Many thanks people.


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Mar 27, 2012 21:26 |  #2

Usually you want those catchlights....why do you want to remove them?


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Mar 27, 2012 21:26 |  #3

Why would you want to remove the catchlight? Without catchlights the eye(s) will look dull and lifeless. Eve naturally lit portraits will have catchlights.


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Mar 27, 2012 21:44 |  #4

The answer to your question is to select a section that matches the color and light, feather, copy, paste, transform, rotate.

The real answer is to leave them there IMHO.


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Mar 27, 2012 21:47 |  #5

I agree, its often a PITA to get catchlights in studio
Leave them in.




  
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Mar 27, 2012 21:49 |  #6

Catchlights are good. Leave em in. Without them the pupil looks bad and flat.




  
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Mar 27, 2012 22:04 |  #7

Heh! I'll just suggest that you post an example of a "problem" shot, one cropped close so the eyes show up large, and let folks give 'em a shot and also give opinions whether they are "acceptable" or not!


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Mar 28, 2012 11:49 |  #8

Ok I'll post a before shot too

And after those answers I would want to ask why you would leave them in? What's the attraction of having them compared to not having them.

Seems like I'm in a minority on removing them.


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Mar 28, 2012 12:10 |  #9

Well, off the top of my head, one thing that catchlights do is draw attention to the eyes which, generally speaking, are the "focus" of a portrait.

For example, I just grabbed a photo I took a while back of my daughter. I did no "retouching" of this for any skin stuff, so you could look at flaws. But, I find myself drawn to the eyes, and the little catchlights are a big part of that:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/128560610.jpg

Here's another example, where there was daylight giving some "natural glow" to the eyes, but I enhanced it a bit by bouncing some "fill" toward the face which seems to attract a bit more attention to the eyes:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/113097970.jpg

So: the two questions you could consider. First, do you want to draw attention to the eyes? And second, what would the eyes look like without the catchlight, and would the absence of the catchlight add or detract from the photo?

And, outside of portraiture and the use of a flash, the fact is that the eyes do naturally reflect light. Without a flash, the reflection can add to the image or the lack of it can be, well, lackluster. Or, in some scenarios, you may not want a reflection at all, so really it's up to you and the look you are after.

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