Would you shoot this higher iso/faster shutter?

Real fun situation: church photography, poor light, no flash allowed. I shot this last year with my 7D and 17-50 Tamron. f2.8, 1/90, 1600 ISO:

Not all of my shots were this blurry at this setting but I'm curious what others would do technique wise: Would you go to 3200 or 2500 ISO and increase the speed of your shutter to 1/250, or would you just stay put?

I am probably going to rent a lens this year for this shoot and will probably either get a 17-55 2.8 or 85 1.8. Thoughts?

Thanks

Noise is almost always preferable to this kind of motion blur. My 5d only natively goes to 1600 ISO. I'd have shot at 1/160 or thereabouts and at f/2.5 ish and pushed as much as was necessary in post. Without even knowing what 3200ISO looks like on a 7d I can say that I'd be there for sure.

Polarized wrote in post #14179365
That just looks so... wrong. Not the photography but what you photographed.

No idea what you are talking about my friend. Everyone appreciated my efforts, which were better compared to Rebels with kit lenses before this.... the staff, families, all happy.... but the picture is wrong? Thanks for your input.

Christopher Steven b wrote in post #14179321
Noise is almost always preferable to this kind of motion blur. My 5d only natively goes to 1600 ISO. I'd have shot at 1/160 or thereabouts and at f/2.5 ish and pushed as much as was necessary in post. Without even knowing what 3200ISO looks like on a 7d I can say that I'd be there for sure.

Thank you sir.

I'm gathering you are FF shooter in which case an 85 1.8 lens would be a good candidate to use here. I'm afraid on my 7D I may not be wide enough; what do you think...... would the IS be helping me much on a 17-55 2.8 if I'm at 1/125 or 1/160 or should I be looking at a fast 50mm?

mpstan wrote in post #14179374
No idea what you are talking about my friend. Everyone appreciated my efforts, which were better compared to Rebels with kit lenses before this.... the staff, families, all happy.... but the picture is wrong? Thanks for your input.

Don't take it so personally. I think he/she is referring to what is going on.

As far as your dilemma, bounce flash if possible.

ajaffe wrote in post #14179397
Don't take it so personally. I think he/she is referring to what is going on.

As far as your dilemma, bounce flash if possible.

Yeh, thanks. I couldn't totally leave it alone. As for bouncing flash no can do; absolutely no flash is allowed during the ceremony. I'm thinking strongly that I want to try backing up and trying the 85 1.8 at 2.0 or so; wondering if folks think that is reasonable. Thank you

mpstan wrote in post #14179285
Real fun situation: church photography, poor light, no flash allowed. I shot this last year with my 7D and 17-50 Tamron. f2.8, 1/90, 1600 ISO:

Your gear list already has the solutions, beginning with the Canon 50mm f/1.8 lens. That unit would have been a preferable lens for low-light situations such as the one illustrated. The Canon 50mm f/1.8 might have required a different location than the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 for similar framing, but it would have offered a higher shutter speed for the same settings...

...which leads to the second solution, which would have been a higher ISO. The 7D is one of the recent generation of Canon's 18MP DSLR's that handle higher ISO's very well. With the use of noise reduction software such as Imagenomic Noiseware, ISO 6400 - or even ISO 12,800 - is very usable.

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Polarized wrote in post #14179365
That just looks so... wrong. Not the photography but what you photographed.

::rolls eyes::

Its called a baptism.

Polarized wrote in post #14179365
That just looks so... wrong. Not the photography but what you photographed.

No political or religious statements/discussions are allowed here.

On topic:

Yes, I would go for higher ISO although I have to say I've made the same mistake over and over trying to get away with slower shutter speeds/lower ISO.

In this case IS is not going to help. I am a fan of IS, even for portraits where it lets you shoot at 1/60s or 1/80s where you otherwise might want something faster, but for this you need shutter speed.

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I'm all for photographic this type of moment, but it seems just the timing and angle look strange. Maybe that's what the poster above was referring to.

It looks like he's playing "got your nose" with a severed arm.

Please don't take offense - it's one of those things that's not really anyone's fault - just how things came together.

EDIT: It would be nice if you could use flash though. It would be cool to use 2nd curtain and a slower shutter speed, so you could get the motion of him bringing her out of the water, then a flash to freeze that moment.

Jason

I think a touch of motion blur wouldn't be too bad. The drops of water coming off her hand are pretty sharp, so I don't think it's a huge issue, anyway.

However, I'd use a tripod to eliminate camera shake and go up in ISO to get a smaller aperture. Looks like the focus is on his hand.

Yeah. You can always fix noise but you can't do anything with a blurred image. Just remember all those little pixels crammed on that sensor makes the 7D a light hungry camera. Proper exposure is key. If you underexpose and push it is not easy to clean it up.

ISO 12,800

On my camera I would not hesitate to bump it up to ISO 6400 in that situation - there is a lot of movement there in a baptism so you need to be able to stop that movement. A slower shutter would work for a wedding where the couple is basically motionless at the alter. Doesn't work so well for this. I'd definitely bump up the ISO and deal with the noise later.

digital paradise wrote in post #14181475
Yeah. You can always fix noise but you can't do anything with a blurred image. Just remember all those little pixels crammed on that sensor makes the 7D a light hungry camera. Proper exposure is key. If you underexpose and push it is not easy to clean it up.

ISO 12,800

OMG please don't tell me you shot this at 12,800 with a 7D then cleaned it up. I'm just using the sliders in LR3 to reduce noise; are the other programs such as Noise Ninja that much better?