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Nov 29, 2005 02:53 |  #1

Hi, I want to set up a cheap lighting system for my camera. I don't have much knowledge or time for portrait photography, but I am interested in getting into it. I don't want to spend alot of moeny of a strobe system right now because of my lack of knowledge and time. I read that fluorescent lighting is not good for photography becasue of something with the changing of the color at high speeds. I was thinking of using compact fluorescents full spectrum, the spiral ones. Do the same problems with reuglar fluorescent bulbs apply to compact fluorescent? If so, are there any other cheap ways to light a scene?

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Nov 29, 2005 06:17 |  #2

mwd630 wrote:
Hi, I want to set up a cheap lighting system for my camera. I don't have much knowledge or time for portrait photography, but I am interested in getting into it. I don't want to spend alot of moeny of a strobe system right now because of my lack of knowledge and time. I read that fluorescent lighting is not good for photography becasue of something with the changing of the color at high speeds. I was thinking of using compact fluorescents full spectrum, the spiral ones. Do the same problems with reuglar fluorescent bulbs apply to compact fluorescent? If so, are there any other cheap ways to light a scene?

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The only way to know about the CF bulbs is to try it. Get a single bulb and take some test shots at various shutter speeds, making sure that there's no other light affecting the test subject. Working in close and/or using some home-brew white (white cardboard?) reflectors to focus all the light from the single bulb onto the test subject will overcome the minimal light problem (the need for wide-open lens aperture).

You will have to select a white-balance setting that matches the light source. That could be a little tricky, depending on the color qualities of the light from the CF bulbs.


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Nov 29, 2005 17:41 |  #3

I heard that the light spectrum of fluorescents is incomplete with spikes. Is the same true of compact fluorescent?




  
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Nov 29, 2005 17:46 |  #4

Yes. They're still fluorescents.


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Nov 29, 2005 18:53 as a reply to  @ Jon's post |  #5

Thanks for both your quick responses.




  
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Feb 20, 2008 18:49 |  #6

Not as bad as standard shop lights though, by any means.


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Feb 20, 2008 20:29 |  #7

The so-called full spectrum fluorescents aren't nearly as "spiky" as standard fluorescents. Or at least the spikes are in better places. I've used the old style full spectrum tubes with Kodachrome and gotten decent color. Never tried it with compact fluorescents.




  
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Feb 21, 2008 15:55 |  #8

They still lack magenta and have a slight green cast, although it's much better than you could correct film for with filters. For casual snapshot uses, it's acceptable, but it's not perfectly correctable.


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Feb 21, 2008 17:14 |  #9

This was shot under an ordinary household CFL, and is the original without correction, shot JPG with a lowly Canon G2...

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...and the first shot color corrected

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Feb 21, 2008 17:48 |  #10

For starters, when shooting with florescent light, try to have daylight balanced bulbs if possible (6500k). Also keep in mind that a florescent bulb operates on a 60hz cycle. Shooting with a shutter speed faster than 1/60th isn't long enough to catch the entire cycle. That's why the images usually have multiple color casts such as purple and green and it varies from image to image.

The following few images are part of a florescent head shot series I'm doing.

f/3.2 @ 1/60th

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This one I screwed up and turned the shutter wheel trying to change the focus point and didn't notice it. F/2.8 @ 1/80th! You can see the bulb reflection in her glasses and if you look, you can notice slight purple bars in the bulb on the right. That's the incomplete cycle.
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Feb 21, 2008 20:53 |  #11

OK, rather than starting with a JPG file, I decided to approach this a bit more professionally and scientifically...

Shot with 20D as a RAW file, 20W household CFL at ISO 1600, at 1/50 f/4.5, daylight WB setting, at about 40" from the bulb in a hanging ceiling fixture (not photographic fixture with reflector)...

IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/AsshotCFL.jpg


Corrected using Auto WB correction in Lightroom, with no other PP corrections (no contrast, no brightness, no curves, no nothing)...

IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/CorrectedCFL.jpg


This will give you an idea of exposure level to expect, the uncorrected WB, and the end result after a simple adjustment using Auto WB tool in RAW convertor.

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