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Mar 30, 2012 18:02 |  #1

100%crop with my 55/250 bird was maybe about 50' away. Im thinking the ISO was set too high

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Mar 31, 2012 00:16 |  #2

Could you post the EXIF info here? I just want to know what settings were used to capture this?


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Mar 31, 2012 00:43 |  #3

ISO 400 ain't that high.


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Mar 31, 2012 00:55 |  #4

It's the crop. A 100% crop on a rebel body through the 55-250 isn't gonna look good, even if it was ISO 100, to get a nice crisp image, you're gonna have to just get closer so you don't have to crop.


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Mar 31, 2012 00:58 |  #5

You should move closer if your focus point is bigger than the bird :D


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Mar 31, 2012 01:38 |  #6

What have you done besides cropping?

A little noise reduction, and a little sharpening help I think.


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Mar 31, 2012 01:52 |  #7

To my eye, thats pretty impressive for a crop from the long end.


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Mar 31, 2012 12:19 |  #8

SkyBaby wrote in post #14184846 (external link)
To my eye, thats pretty impressive for a crop from the long end.

I was thinking that too... good focus also.



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Mar 31, 2012 17:15 |  #9

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Mar 31, 2012 21:33 |  #10

torkk wrote in post #14187637 (external link)
---- ExifIFD ----
Exposure Time : 1/1600
F Number : 8.0
Exposure Program : Aperture-priority AE
ISO : 400
Exif Version : 0221
Date/Time Original : 2012:03:30 09:05:54
Create Date : 2012:03:30 09:05:54
Shutter Speed Value : 1/1600
Aperture Value : 8.0
Exposure Compensation : 0
Max Aperture Value : 1.8

That's a whoooole lot of Exif info. If this is the 55-250 why does it say Max Aperture Value: 1.8?


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Mar 31, 2012 21:34 |  #11

dunno what should it be


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Mar 31, 2012 21:59 |  #12

I would have assumed f/5.6, or at least f/4.0


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Apr 01, 2012 16:30 |  #13

Yeah if it was the 55-250 it couldn't be 1.8.

EDIT: Seems like some sort of bug in recording the EXIF data correctly.


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Apr 01, 2012 18:30 as a reply to  @ andrew_patterson's post |  #14

Make : Canon
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Apr 01, 2012 21:03 |  #15

I would expect the problem is not with the exif but rather the exif tool software.

Although my exif viewer is reporting the same max f-stop. It just doesn't report as much information.


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